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Re: Style: new String( "abc" )

Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Date 2015-06-05 13:37 -0700
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Subject Re: Style: new String( "abc" )
From Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com>

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Evertjan. wrote:
>> "No data speaks for itself," McCoy said, forceful. [ ... ]
> btw, wouldn't "forcefully' be more correct here and has English become more 
> sloppy itself in the 23 c. ce.?

Both Gene and Tim had good answers to this, but an example might make
this clearer:

If it had been

| "No data speaks for itself," McCoy said, happy in the knowledge that
| he never had to speak to Spock again.

(sorry, don't know the story, just day-dreaming...)

then one wouldn't think twice about it.  The sentence just feels natural.  But in fact, that whole second phrase serves as an adjective, and can be
boiled down to its first word:

| "No data speaks for itself," McCoy said, happy.

That feels a little less common to a native English speaker, but it's not 
entirely unfamiliar.  I think the reason this is easier to swallow than
"forceful" is that the change from "forceful" to "forcefully" is simply
and extension of the sounds.  It feels as though something's been left off.
Whereas going from "happy" to "happily" involves a more radical shift, and
so does not give the same impression.

  -- Scott

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Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Dr J R Stockton <reply1500@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-06-03 22:37 +0100
  Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-06-04 10:49 +0200
    Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-06-04 10:43 -0700
      Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-04 18:49 +0100
    Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 13:37 -0700
  Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-06-04 18:49 +0200
    Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-04 18:47 +0100
  Re: Style: new String( "abc" ) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-07 18:09 +1000

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