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Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements

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Tim Streater wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> What exactly happens if you double-click attribution novels?
> 
> Sorry, I should have said cmd-click, not double-click. If I do that on
> the message reference 1522535.knIXBJrhn8@PointedEars.de (as if I were
> reading this post, for example), then your attributed post opens in
> another window.
> 
> That is useful if someone has only quoted portions of it and I want to
> see it in its entirety. And I can repeat that process for as long as
> posters have (if they have the option to) provided that sort of
> attribution or the servers have the article in question.

I find it hard to believe that the newsreader that you are using would not 
allow you to select the previous posting.  It just can't be that bad; if it 
really is, it just does not qualify as newsreader.  So that is hardly a good 
argument for insisting on the creation of unreadable discussions.  See 
below.

The same newsreader, although it has its comparably low limits, has at least 
a shortcut to open all References, regardless whether the precursor's 
Message-ID was included in the message body:

<http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/docs/Commands.html#Open_All_References>

Better newsreaders, even some that are available for your OS, provide a link 
list of References or equivalent solutions.  For example:

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/mnenhy/>
<http://www.kde.org/images/screenshots/knode.png>

So there is actually no need to include Message-IDs in NetNews articles 
except for citing other articles (buried in the same long thread or being 
off-thread).

What is necessary only is to give proper attribution, so that one can see at 
a glance *who* wrote *what* was quoted, at *each* quotation level.  Combine 
with that basic requirement an attribution that is or becomes, through 
quoting, longer than one line, because of secondary e-mail addresses, 
Message-IDs, dates, or “funny” text, and discussions very quickly become 
hard to read.  The record shows.

HTH.

F'up2 poster because it is off-topic.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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Matching arbitrary pairs of elements real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2013-01-08 19:41 +0000
  Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-09 00:36 +0100
    Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2013-01-09 11:46 +0000
      Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-09 18:24 +0100
    Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.invalid> - 2013-01-09 16:34 +0000
  Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements "Leonardo Azpurua" <leonardo@exmvps.org> - 2013-01-08 23:11 -0430
    Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-16 12:49 +0100
      Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-16 12:47 +0000
        Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-16 14:27 +0100
          Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-16 13:52 +0000
            Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-16 18:48 +0100
              Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-01-16 17:58 +0000
              Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.invalid> - 2013-01-17 14:30 +0000
  Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2013-01-10 13:11 +1100
  Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2013-01-11 10:32 +0000
    Re: Matching arbitrary pairs of elements RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2013-01-13 22:36 -0800

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