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Re: element content change

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: element content change
Date 2014-08-06 21:54 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> writes:

> 2014-08-06 22:37, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> writes:
>> <snip>
>>> ACK.  Or maybe better:
>>>
>>>    <label id=citylabel><input type=text id=city> City</label><br>
>>
>> That looks logically wrong to me -- a label should not include the thing
>> it labels.
>
> I agree that it is illogical, but it is permitted in HTML
> specifications, has been ever since <label> was introduced.

Yes, definitely valid.  It's only the implied meaning that I didn't
like.

>> My only back-up is the examples in[1], which all show the
>> control outside, with the label element containing just, well, the
>> label.
> [...]
>> [1]  http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-LABEL
>
> Reading forward, you’ll see examples like
>
> <LABEL>
>    First Name
>    <INPUT type="text" name="firstname">
> </LABEL>

Well, what do you know?  I never noticed that!  As you say (but I'll
snip for brevity) there are reasons to avoid the "illogical" form, so I
won't be changing my practice.

<snip>
-- 
Ben.

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element content change teddybubu@gmail.com - 2014-08-05 17:05 -0700
  Re: element content change Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-06 11:23 +1000
    Re: element content change Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-06 02:47 +0100
      Re: element content change "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2014-08-06 06:47 +0300
        Re: element content change Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-06 20:27 +0100
      Re: element content change "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-06 15:16 +0200
        Re: element content change Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-06 20:37 +0100
          Re: element content change "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2014-08-06 23:19 +0300
            Re: element content change Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-06 21:54 +0100
              Re: element content change Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-06 21:59 +0100
            Re: element content change "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-07 00:59 +0200
              Re: element content change "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2014-08-07 08:28 +0300
                Re: element content change Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-08-07 11:42 +0100
                Re: element content change "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-08 18:48 +0200
          Re: element content change "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-08-07 00:54 +0200
  Re: element content change teddybubu@gmail.com - 2014-08-05 19:36 -0700
    Re: element content change Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2014-08-06 08:52 +0200
  Re: element content change Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-08-06 12:52 +0000
  Re: element content change teddybubu@gmail.com - 2014-08-06 05:58 -0700

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