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Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length"

Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Date 2016-02-25 06:24 -0800
References <b99c7479-d78d-4e99-b6e7-c3e6d2010e6c@googlegroups.com> <array-20160221194511@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <2392050.Ox0AAuCGCL@PointedEars.de>
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Subject Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length"
From Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com>

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Stefan Ram wrote:
>> bit-naughty@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>*JS*, _why_ did they do things this way?
>> 
>>   In Java, it is done that way because Brendan Eich was told
>    ^^^^^^^
>>   that JavaScript should look similar to Java.
> 
> Poorly worded; you have it partially backwards.  Brendan Eich did not 
> invent Java, he invented JavaScript.  JavaScript and other ECMAScript 
> implementations are that way because it was so in Java, not the other 
> way around.
>  
>>   Java was designed to look familiar to C++ programmers,
> 
> Cite evidence.

Why do you insist on this when it's well known in the programming community
and easy to find (see, e.g., [1]) and yet you assert without citing any
evidence at all, "JavaScript and other ECMAScript implementations are that
way because it was so in Java"?

Of course that's correct too, but why do you think that Stefan must cite
evidence and you're exempt from the same?

Your correction of Stefan about the Java/JavaScript history was _a propos_.

Why bother following it with such trivial and insulting nonsense?


  [1]: <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/simple-142339.html>, which 
       says, in part, 

       | Another major design goal is that Java look _familiar_ to a 
       | majority| of programmers in the personal computer and workstation 
       | arenas, where a large fraction of system programmers and 
       | application programmers are familiar with C and C++. Thus, Java
       | "looks like" C++.


  -- Scott

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(Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2016-02-21 09:51 -0800
  Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-21 23:48 +0100
    Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 06:24 -0800
  Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-02-22 11:03 +0000
  Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-22 12:23 +0000
  Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-02-22 11:57 -0300
    Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-22 21:19 +0100
      Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2016-02-23 11:22 +0100
        Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-23 20:50 +0100
  Re: (Sort of) newbie trying to understand "array.length" "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-02-23 11:20 +0100

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