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Re: Can someone tell if this is javascript or else (jquery)?

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Andrew Poulos wrote:

> On 18/02/2016 9:42 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>> John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> writes:
>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 07:31:34 +1100, Andrew Poulos
>>>> As this is programming, wouldn't it be more accurate to call it a set
>>>> because a class is "... a template definition of the method s and
>>>> variable s in a particular kind of object"?
>>> In programming I prefer to think of a class as a collection of objects
>>> that have something in common. The something in common is defined in
>>> the class declaration or equivalent. Calling that a template is a bit
>>> over the top.
>>
>>    What Andrew quoted obviously does not make sense.
> 
> By that as it may, but a few websites disagree with your conclusion. For
> example
>    <http://codetpoint.com/java/java-oops-concept/>

I would not put too much stock in that resource, though.  It also says in 
that very definition of “class”:

| […] Thus, an object is a specific instance of a class;

So far, so good.  However, it should be noted that a class *is* an object 
itself in Java (and several other OOPLs).

And it continues:

| it contains real values instead of variables.

Which is nonsense, especially regarding Java (which that site claims to 
describe properly).  In Java, classes have _members_; members which are not 
methods are _fields_ which *can* have (initial) values; they are only also 
called “class variables” if they are declared static (i.e., not inherited to 
instances).

Besides, that resource is only describing *class-based* OOP, and, as it is 
unfortunately so often the case, its author(s) apparently assume(s) that 
this is the only kind of OOP.  However, in particular, most of the used 
ECMAScript implementations only have built-in support for *prototype-based* 
OOP; AFAIK, built-in support for class-based OOP can only be found in 
JScript .NET and ActionScript 2+ as implementations of the abandoned 
ECMAScript Ed. 4 draft, and implementations of ECMAScript 2015 such as 
Microsoft TypeScript and newer versions of Google V8.

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