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Re: Identity of values in Javascript

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Stefan Ram wrote:

> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>> There's no real harm in that and Javascript is a rather vague term
>> anyway.  Most implementations aim to conform with the ECMAScript
>> specification and that uses Number etc when talking about the types.
> 
>   Some say that »JavaScript« is the name of the ECMAScript
>   implementation of Netscape/Mozilla, so:

This is not only that “some” say, but something that is true.  See the ES 
Matrix and referenced material, in particular my thesis linked there and 
material referenced in there, for details.

> console.log( window.navigator.appCodeName );
> "Mozilla"

That does not prove anything.  The value of the “appCodeName” property of 
the “navigator” object is the part of the “navigator.userAgent” value that 
precedes the *application* version.

You get exactly the same value in Chrome/Chromium even though the ECMAScript 
implementation in Chrome/Chromium is Google V8 JavaScript.  Likewise for 
other HTML user agent environments.

The reason for that is that when Microsoft Internet Explorer was published, 
Netscape Navigator with its Mozilla codebase was already around, and people 
would check for that.  To increase their browser’s market share, Microsoft 
used much the same User-Agent string; other vendors did too, so it gradually 
became useless (although nowadays pertinent pieces have been re-added).  
Which is also why browser sniffing *instead of* feature detection is a bad 
idea (but there are edge cases where there is no other way, even for 
experts).

See the ES Matrix (see my sig) for an exclusion algorithm that is capable of 
inferring the used ECMAScript implementation and version in several cases.
 
> console.log( typeof( 2 ));
> "number"

“typeof” is an operator; you should not write it as if it were a function 
call:

  console.log(typeof 2);

>   However, the MDN sometimes uses upper-case and sometimes
>   lower-case spellings for those types.

Example?

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Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-22 22:47 +1000
  Re: Identity of values in Javascript Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-22 19:17 +0100
    Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-23 05:02 +1000
      Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-23 05:25 +1000
      Re: Identity of values in Javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-05-22 23:51 +0200
      Re: Identity of values in Javascript Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-23 00:24 +0100
        Re: Identity of values in Javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-23 09:35 +0200
          Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-23 23:04 +1000
        Re: Identity of values in Javascript "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2015-05-23 22:27 +0200
          Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-25 01:58 +1000
        Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-25 02:12 +1000
          Re: Identity of values in Javascript Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-24 23:33 +0100
            Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-25 21:47 +1000
              Re: Identity of values in Javascript Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-26 00:10 +0100
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-26 17:34 +0200
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-26 17:03 +0100
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-26 18:31 +0200
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-27 23:40 +1000
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-05-27 23:21 -0300
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-05-27 19:32 -0700
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-28 22:38 +0200
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2015-05-26 09:06 -0700
                Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-27 23:02 +1000
    Re: Identity of values in Javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-23 00:02 +0200
    Re: Identity of values in Javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-05-23 09:19 +0200
  Re: Identity of values in Javascript Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-23 05:20 +1000

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