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Re: FAQ

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From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: FAQ
Date Wed, 03 Sep 2014 01:53:42 +0200
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Christoph M. Becker wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>>> The great advantage of the current approach: a proposed change (often
>>> only fixing a typo or a broken link) will not have to wait forever.
>> ISTM you are misunderstanding my approach.  IIRC, the suggestions I have
>> received so far all had the virtue of causing only considerably small,
>> obvious changes, of being submitted *by subscribers of the newsgroup* to
>> no dissent within a reasonable time span, and were therefore implemented
>> by me without consulting the newsgroup any further.
> 
> I believe, I do *not* misunderstand your approach.  Thus I wrote
> "proposed" (I might have clarified by writing "puclicly proposed") and
> "often only fixing a typo or a broken link" (I've added "often", because
> there are a few changes, for instance, "Updated paragraph on
> 'javascript'"[1], which might not be regarded as corrections by *some*
> regulars).

You have suggested elsewhere in this thread that I would make all changes to 
the FAQ for comp.lang.javascript unilaterally and revert/modify them later 
only upon sufficient protest here.  That is explicitly *not* my approach, 
and it never was.  Please do not suggest otherwise; such talk is counter-
productive.
 
>> There are other changes overdue in the FAQ content that are not that easy
>> to make, and ISTM that I will have to suggest to the newsgroup because
>> either nobody else sees them or cares about them enough.
> 
> I am aware of several issues (*for instance*, "The Internet Explorer
> Memory Leak Problem"[2]), but I had not yet found the time to
> investigate on them further to be able to make an appropriate proposal.

No offense meant.  However, it is the “enough” in that statement that 
matters.  If something is important enough, one *makes* time to do it.
I am no exception there.
 
>> Please read my announcement again so that you better understand how I
>> would like this to work.  (Whereas I am working on other ways for people
>> to make suggestions, to be discussed in the newsgroup, than just the
>> newsgroup.)
> 
> I believe, that I am well aware of how you would like this to work.
> However, when you had announced that, there were several complaints that
> your desired approach would not be formal enough.  It seems to me, some
> regulars prefer a far more bureaucratic approach.

IIRC, there is *one person* openly objecting to that approach, or rather to 
the person who follows it, and whether the former one can be called a 
regular of this newsgroup at all is debatable.  I find it rather surprising 
that you think they are that important for this newsgroup to merit any 
derious, extended discussion with them.  A regular would contribute on-topic 
information to the newsgroup on a regular basis; so far, that person 
provably did not.  And please do not excuse this by saying there is nothing 
on-topic to discuss (as you did erlier); the on-topic discussions that took 
place in the meantime in which said person did not participate, were many, 
actually – Honi soit qui mal y pense.
 
> However, the actual approach might not matter all too much at all.  As
> soon as there would be consensus required for a substantial change to
> the FAQ, unfortunately there will be none -- at least I'm pretty sure of
> that, considering the past.  Votings might be a solution, but:
> 
>   * Who would be entitled to vote?

It would have to be either everyone or no-one.  However, I am not aware of 
any newsgroup FAQ whose content was decided by public vote, including the 
current one.  Given that there will always be few who know what they are 
talking about, and many who do not, that is probably good so.

*Newsgroups* are being voted on (CfV) because placing a Yea/Nay/Abstain vote 
on whether to create or delete a newsgroup, or reorganize a hierarchy does 
not require expertise on the topic of that newsgroup (that *useful*, 
factually *correct* FAQ content does).

>   * Do changes to FAQ require a simple majority, or a supermajority?
>   * What would be the rules for three options (keep, remove, improve)?
>   * ...

I have overlooked the Sarcasm Sign[tm] again, have I not?

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