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danca (Daniele Campagna) wrote:

> Il 12/06/2015 08:54 PM, Andrew Poulos ha scritto:
>> On 7/12/2015 3:11 AM, John Harris wrote:
>>> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote:
>>>> John Harris wrote:
>>>>> When talking to Jonas Thornvall we need to use words that he
>>>>> understands. I might have guessed wrong; you, Thomas, don't even try.
>>>> I just do not agree with your approach.  Communicating with people as
>>>> if they were not intelligent keeps them ignorant and dependent.  By
>>>> contrast, I always assume that I address intelligent people who want to
>>>> learn and to understand what they are doing.
>>> Notice the implication : Thomas assumes that people whose English is
>>> less than perfect are not intelligent.
>>
>> He's saying that he doesn't talk down to people and you're saying
>> something else.

Partially.  You are correct regarding English – for how could I blame others 
for theirs when English is not my native language, too?  What I am saying is 
that I always start with the assumption that people are smart, and want to 
learn.  Wanting to learn includes to not be annoyed by unknown or seemingly 
complicated things, but to ask about the things that you do not understand; 
preferably after you have made an effort to find out by yourself.  As 
everyone’s time is valuable.

And when people behave stupid and I happen to talk down to them (instead of 
just ignoring them), it is not because I think they are stupid, but that I 
assume that they could do better if they would just put more effort into it.  
I do not suffer fools lightly indeed – that includes lazy people.

So the teaching philosophy I follow, as it has benefited me too, is probably 
closest to that of Confucius who said:

  “I do not enlighten those who are not eager to learn,
   nor arouse those who are not anxious
   to give an explanation themselves.
   If I have presented one corner of the square
   and they cannot come back to me with the other three,
   I should not go over the points again.”

>> I guess one-upmanship is one of the reasons why this NG is close to dead.
> 
> This NG is not close to dead, and i'll guess there are many lurker around.

ACK.

> And the rivalry between Harris and Lahn must not be depreciated, in a
> sense, it is part of the show! :-)

As for myself, I have no rivalry with anyone.  That is a concept completely 
foreign to me.  When I challenge someone’s ideas, it is so that all of us 
who are willing to learn can learn.

Now enough about me, let’s get back on topic.

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  Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Chris M. Thomasson" <nospam@nospam.nospam> - 2015-12-02 14:50 -0800
  Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-03 00:42 +0100
    Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-02 18:03 -0800
    Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 09:04 -0800
      Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-03 18:23 +0100
        Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 09:48 -0800
          Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-03 19:49 +0100
            Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 11:17 -0800
              Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-03 20:26 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 11:32 -0800
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-03 20:37 +0100
              Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-12-04 10:38 +0000
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-04 13:37 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-12-04 16:14 +0000
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-04 18:10 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-12-04 18:52 +0000
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-04 20:07 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-12-06 14:47 +0000
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-12-06 16:11 +0000
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-07 06:54 +1100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "danca (Daniele Campagna)" <cyberdanny@tiscalinet.it> - 2015-12-06 22:43 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-06 23:19 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2015-12-08 11:16 +0000
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2015-12-04 11:55 -0300
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-04 17:26 +0100
                Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-04 09:23 -0800
            Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 20:29 +0100
              Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-12-03 13:23 -0800
        Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 10:06 -0800
          Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2015-12-03 20:21 +0100
        Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-03 21:00 +0100
  Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2015-12-02 16:50 -0800
    Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 07:10 -0800
      Re: Multidimensional arrays in javascript jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 07:23 -0800
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