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Re: Setting focus

Message-ID <1631681.TAQiDfTTKe@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Date 2013-03-24 10:41 +0100
Subject Re: Setting focus
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
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Scott Sauyet wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Scott Sauyet wrote:
>>> Your code suggests of course that the function associated with the
>>> setTimeout call will live well beyond the time when it's fired,
>>
>> “The function” (the Function instance) “will live” (may exist) “well
>> beyond” (beyond) the time when it is “fired” (called).
> 
> Did you not understand what I said?  Did you think that others would
> not?

You may have noticed that I try to avoid script-kiddie speak, and try to use 
correct and unambiguous wording.  For example, functions are not “fired”; 
they are called (to be exact, Function instances are called using the 
[[Call]] internal method).

>>> and so the properties in the related closure should be cleaned up.
>> _Variables_, not properties.
> 
> I'm not sure I agree with your correction,

Variables are not necessarily properties.  It depends on how you look at it, 
specifically which Edition of ECMAScript you are using as reference.

> but I also don't think it's the slightest bit relevant.

But it is.  Variables are tied to an execution context; properties are tied 
to objects.
 
>>> Do you have any […] references that discuss it?
>> Yes.
> 
> Would you please do me the honor of sharing such references?

Not again.

>>> I have my doubts because it seems to me that if it were the case, pages
>>> with heavy animations would often quickly overload the memory.
>>
>> Not necessarily.
> 
> Of course not.  In fact, certain style animations would never use
> `setTimeout` at all, choosing `setInterval` instead, and others would
> only ever have reference to a single function even though it's been
> registered with `setTimeout` many times.  But there are many
> animations that were not written that way, and I don't recall issues
> with memory consumption.  However I've never paid a great deal of
> attention to animations, so it's certainly possible that I've just not
> noticed it.

ISTM that your careless use of language is indicative of careless thinking.  
I find your arguments strewn with weasel words like “well beyond”, “heavy”, 
“quickly”, and so on, and with gaping defects in logic.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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Setting focus Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2013-02-28 14:30 -0500
  Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-28 20:50 +0100
    Re: Setting focus Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2013-02-28 16:05 -0500
      Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-28 22:17 +0100
        Re: Setting focus Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-28 23:16 +0100
          Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-28 23:36 +0100
            Re: Setting focus Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-03-01 08:21 +0100
              Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 13:10 +0100
          Re: Setting focus "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-02-28 23:37 +0100
            Re: Setting focus Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-03-01 08:18 +0100
              Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-01 13:12 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Bernd Nawothnig <Bernd.Nawothnig@t-online.de> - 2013-03-02 15:16 +0100
        Re: Setting focus Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-03-21 20:06 -0700
          Re: Setting focus Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-03-22 10:03 +0100
            Re: Setting focus Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2013-03-22 08:53 -0400
              Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-23 15:09 +0100
            Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-23 15:07 +0100
              Re: Setting focus Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-03-24 12:38 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-24 13:42 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-03-24 13:54 +0100
          Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-23 15:04 +0100
            Re: Setting focus Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-03-23 17:35 -0700
              Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-24 10:41 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-03-24 16:42 -0700
                Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-30 14:27 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-03-30 09:25 -0700
                Re: Setting focus Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-30 19:50 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-03-30 17:11 -0700
              Re: Setting focus Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-03-30 01:02 +0100
                Re: Setting focus Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-03-30 09:17 -0700
                Re: Setting focus "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-03-30 17:55 +0100

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