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Re: What's wrong with using a global id?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: What's wrong with using a global id?
Date 2018-02-25 17:37 +0100
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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JJ wrote:

> On 25 Feb 2018 04:19:12 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>   (I also showed them that given
>> 
>> <p id="null">
>> 
>> this.null
>>   did not refer to the element while
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> `this.null` will never refer to the global `null` object,

Straw man.

> even if `this` is the global object. The `null` object resides in the
> global context, instead of the global object as a property.

There is no such thing as a “global null object”.  “null” (without quotation 
marks) is the sole value of the *primitive* Null type.
 
>> document.getElementById( "null" )
>> 
>>   did.
     ^^^ 
> It doesn't. What browser did you use to check that? Even MSIE v6 doesn't.

Yes, it does.  You have confused his argument with your 
misunderstanding/straw man of it.
 
>> There also might be several other ids that do not
>>   appear as a global property.)
> 
> As long as there's a variable exist in the global context before the HTML
> element is added into the HTML document, the HTML element ID will never
> replace the existing variable.

The order does not matter at all.

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Re: What's wrong with using a global id? JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2018-02-25 22:20 +0700
  Re: What's wrong with using a global id? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-02-25 17:37 +0100
    Re: What's wrong with using a global id? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-02-25 09:16 -0800
      Re: What's wrong with using a global id? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-02-25 10:19 -0800
    Re: What's wrong with using a global id? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2018-02-26 15:18 +0000
      Re: What's wrong with using a global id? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-02 17:06 +0100

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