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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Subject | Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access |
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Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> kj <no.email@please.post> writes:
Such anti-social address munging leads to at least one killfile entry.
>> (WARNING: This is a "JavaScript golf"-type query, of little practical
>> import; just for those who get into this sort of thing...)
>>
>>
>> Quick version
>> =============
>>
>> How to shorten the generic JavaScript expression
>>
>> o.hasOwnProperty('p') ? o.p : <EXPR>
>>
>> ...while still preserving the *conditional* evaluation of the <EXPR>
>> clause? (Here <EXPR> stands for an arbitrary JavaScript
>> expression.)
> <snip>
>> The best that my noob-level JS can come up with is to define a helper
>> function `HAS` (in a suitably restricted scope) to replace the verbose
>> built-in hasOwnProperty, so that one can at least write:
>>
>> HAS(o, 'p') ? o.p : <EXPR>
>
> If HAS returns o.p when o.hasOwnProperty('p'), then you can avoid the
> conditional
>
> HAS(o, 'p') || <EXPR>
Incorrect. There is a difference between an object having a property and
converting the result of a property access to Boolean. Assuming you meant
function HAS (o, p)
{
if (o.hasOwnProperty(p)) return o[p];
}
(where “HAS” is a very unwise identifier), if the value of o[p] was a false-
value, the result of
HAS(o, 'p') || <EXPR>
would be
<EXPR>
> Anything that uses functions to wrap EXPR for delayed execution suffers
> from the fact the ECMAScript uses such a long keyword, and that the
> syntax requires empty parentheses. (I take it that one of the rules of
> this golf game is that the expression should be short.)
Harmony (ECMAScript Edition 6) is going to fix that with foo(bar => baz):
<http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:arrow_function_syntax>
That aside, the rules would also have to include that at “o” and “o.p” do
not hold references to host objects because those objects do not need to
implement [[HasProperty]] and [[Get]] the standard way (they may even throw
exceptions, as long-time subscribers should know).
I do not think this expression can be shortened (if you count the called
function as well), while being value-equivalent, as long as it must be
*generic*.
The “in” operator could be used if it did not consider inherited properties,
whereas hasOwnProperty() does not. So the shorter
"p" in o?o.p:<EXPR>
must be excluded. The proprietary, considerably safe
"p" in o&&!("p" in o.__proto__)?o.p:<EXPR>
would not be shorter than
o.hasOwnProperty('p')?o.p:<EXPR>
And the “in” operator should be forbidden with host objects because it uses
[[HasProperty]].
Much depends on what is meant by “JavaScript”:
<http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
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(golf-ish) Conditional object property access kj <no.email@please.post> - 2013-09-02 20:23 +0000
Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-09-02 21:52 +0100
Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-09-02 23:11 +0200
Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-09-03 00:03 +0200
Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-09-02 23:19 +0100
Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-09-03 01:59 +0200
Re: (golf-ish) Conditional object property access Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-09-02 23:10 +0200
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