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Javadocs?

Started by	Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
First post	2019-08-14 08:08 -0700
Last post	2019-10-12 20:40 +0100
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  Javadocs? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-08-14 08:08 -0700
    Re: Javadocs? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2019-08-14 13:59 -0400
      Re: Javadocs? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-08-14 11:10 -0700
        Re: Javadocs? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2019-08-14 20:21 -0400
        Re: Javadocs? Knute Johnson <groups@585ranch.com> - 2019-08-17 13:20 -0500
          Re: Javadocs? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 04:56 -0700
            Re: Javadocs? Knute Johnson <groups@585ranch.com> - 2019-08-19 10:01 -0500
              Re: Javadocs? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 12:23 -0700
                Re: Javadocs? Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> - 2019-08-19 16:05 -0500
            Re: Javadocs? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2019-08-19 22:00 -0400
              Re: Javadocs? Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> - 2019-08-20 15:34 -0500
      Re: Javadocs? Graeme Geldenhuys <graemeg@example.net> - 2019-10-12 20:40 +0100

#39099 — Javadocs?

From	Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date	2019-08-14 08:08 -0700
Subject	Javadocs?
Message-ID	<72412389-9905-4d1e-9820-baf81c830f35@googlegroups.com>

Where are javadocs for OpenJDK Hotspot 11?  I can't seem to find them.

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#39100

From	Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date	2019-08-14 13:59 -0400
Message-ID	<qj1i5p$avo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#39099

On 8/14/2019 11:08 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> Where are javadocs for OpenJDK Hotspot 11?  I can't seem to find them.

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/index.html

should cover any Java 11 implementation including OpenJDK.

Arne

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#39101

From	Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date	2019-08-14 11:10 -0700
Message-ID	<3c42b4f5-e154-4210-b68d-575688e0bc55@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#39100

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:59:34 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/14/2019 11:08 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> > Where are javadocs for OpenJDK Hotspot 11?  I can't seem to find them.
> 
> https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/index.html
> 
> should cover any Java 11 implementation including OpenJDK.
> 
> Arne

So the (https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html?variant=openjdk11&jvmVariant=hotspot#x64_win) Java should have exactly the same classes and methods as the (https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html)?

The (https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/index.html) looks confusing as we now have to get used to finding classes by module where (https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/) listed them all by package.  I thought the frames was a good setup, click a package in one frame, select a class in another, see class detail in the third frame.  Apparently they got rid of frames.  The (https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/allpackages-index.html) documentation appears to have all the same classes by package without the module breakup.

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#39102

From	Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date	2019-08-14 20:21 -0400
Message-ID	<qj28hc$1dl3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#39101

On 8/14/2019 2:10 PM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:59:34 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/14/2019 11:08 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
>>> Where are javadocs for OpenJDK Hotspot 11?  I can't seem to find them.
>>
>> https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/index.html
>>
>> should cover any Java 11 implementation including OpenJDK.
> 
> So the (https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html?variant=openjdk11&jvmVariant=hotspot#x64_win) Java should have exactly the same classes and methods as the (https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html)?

They should have the same documented and supported classes and methods.

They could have different undocumented and unsupported classes and methods.

But I don't think they have as OpenJDK and Oracle Java is build from
almost the same source code (there were a few things SUN could not
open source where Redhat created replacement code).

> The (https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/index.html)
> looks confusing as we now have to get used to finding classes by
> module where (https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/) listed them
> all by package.  I thought the frames was a good setup, click a
> package in one frame, select a class in another, see class detail in
> the third frame.  Apparently they got rid of frames.  The
> (https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/allpackages-index.html)
> documentation appears to have all the same classes by package without
> the module breakup.
Java 9 added modules.

So 11 and 8 are a bit different organized.

But since 14 and 17 are going to be like 11, then you
just as well get used to the 11 way.

Arne

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#39107

From	Knute Johnson <groups@585ranch.com>
Date	2019-08-17 13:20 -0500
Message-ID	<qj9ghu$9m3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#39101

On 8/14/2019 1:10 PM, Eric Douglas wrote:

Apparently they got rid of frames.

Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.

That's why.

k...

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#39108

From	Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date	2019-08-19 04:56 -0700
Message-ID	<c0faa363-5fd1-4ed3-9594-d6e3cde68ae1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#39107

On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 2:20:58 PM UTC-4, Knute Johnson wrote:
> On 8/14/2019 1:10 PM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> 
> Apparently they got rid of frames.
> 
> Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.
> 
> That's why.
> 
> k...

Is there an alternative?  I like that frame format.

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#39109

From	Knute Johnson <groups@585ranch.com>
Date	2019-08-19 10:01 -0500
Message-ID	<qjedjf$q3c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#39108

On 8/19/2019 6:56 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 2:20:58 PM UTC-4, Knute Johnson wrote:
>> On 8/14/2019 1:10 PM, Eric Douglas wrote:
>>
>> Apparently they got rid of frames.
>>
>> Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.
>>
>> That's why.
>>
>> k...
> 
> Is there an alternative?  I like that frame format.
> 

Not that I know of.

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#39110

From	Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date	2019-08-19 12:23 -0700
Message-ID	<98a8ffd8-e58d-464e-9427-9d1637e99010@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#39109

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 11:01:17 AM UTC-4, Knute Johnson wrote:
> >> Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.
> >>
> >> That's why.
> >>
> >> k...
> > 
> > Is there an alternative?  I like that frame format.
> > 
> 
> Not that I know of.

I'm confused.  I see frames are deprecated in html5, and frames are supported in html5 as 'nested browsing contexts'.  frames are gone, iframes have new tags, what's the difference?

https://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-20090423/browsers.html
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_frame.asp
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_iframe.asp

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#39111

From	Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com>
Date	2019-08-19 16:05 -0500
Message-ID	<qjf2ve$g2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#39110

On 8/19/2019 14:23, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 11:01:17 AM UTC-4, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>>> Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.
>>>>
>>>> That's why.
>>>>
>>>> k...
>>>
>>> Is there an alternative?  I like that frame format.
>>>
>>
>> Not that I know of.
> 
> I'm confused.  I see frames are deprecated in html5, and frames are supported in html5 as 'nested browsing contexts'.  frames are gone, iframes have new tags, what's the difference?
> 
> https://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-20090423/browsers.html
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_frame.asp
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_iframe.asp
> 

Unfortunate naming, they don't work the same.  I miss frames too.

-- 

Knute Johnson

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#39112

From	Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date	2019-08-19 22:00 -0400
Message-ID	<qjfk76$1nbu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#39108

On 8/19/2019 7:56 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 2:20:58 PM UTC-4, Knute Johnson wrote:
>> Apparently they got rid of frames.
>>
>> Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.
>>
>> That's why.
> 
> Is there an alternative?  I like that frame format.

Unpack the src and run javadoc with --frames may work.

Arne

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#39119

From	Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com>
Date	2019-08-20 15:34 -0500
Message-ID	<qjhlg8$sl6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#39112

On 8/19/2019 21:00, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/19/2019 7:56 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 2:20:58 PM UTC-4, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>> Apparently they got rid of frames.
>>>
>>> Frames are deprecated in HTML 5.
>>>
>>> That's why.
>>
>> Is there an alternative?  I like that frame format.
> 
> Unpack the src and run javadoc with --frames may work.
> 
> Arne
> 
> 

Thanks Arne!  The --frames option will create the frames version too. 
It prints a deprecation warning but it works just fine.

-- 

Knute Johnson

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#39170

From	Graeme Geldenhuys <graemeg@example.net>
Date	2019-10-12 20:40 +0100
Message-ID	<qnta72$3ki$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#39100

On 14/08/2019 6:59 pm, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/index.html
> 
> should cover any Java 11 implementation including OpenJDK.

Correct - and in case you didn't notice, FINALLY the API docs have a
search box, which works very well. Even though I still use Java 8 at our
work, I use Java 11 docs simply because of the search ability. This is
something that should have been in Java 1.0! :-)

Regards,
  Graeme

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