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JDK 11 will loose some weight

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First post2018-01-22 16:43 -0800
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  JDK 11 will loose some weight bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-01-22 16:43 -0800
    Re: JDK 11 will loose some weight Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-01-24 20:55 -0500
      Re: JDK 11 will loose some weight j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-25 14:18 +0100
        Re: JDK 11 will loose some weight j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-25 14:20 +0100

#37978 — JDK 11 will loose some weight

Frombursejan@gmail.com
Date2018-01-22 16:43 -0800
SubjectJDK 11 will loose some weight
Message-ID<70d51397-d130-4a50-b1ed-b685bf51cad9@googlegroups.com>
JEP 320: Remove the Java EE and CORBA Modules
http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/320

JDK 11: End of the road for Java EE modules
https://jaxenter.com/jdk-11-java-ee-modules-140674.html

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#37994

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2018-01-24 20:55 -0500
Message-ID<p4bddv$i6p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#37978
On 1/22/2018 7:43 PM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:
> JEP 320: Remove the Java EE and CORBA Modules
> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/320
> 
> JDK 11: End of the road for Java EE modules
> https://jaxenter.com/jdk-11-java-ee-modules-140674.html

I must admit that I don't get it.

Some things are fine:
* CORBA out - no problem, practically nobody has used that the last 15 years
* JTA out - no problem, if you have a transaction manager then you are 
in Java EE world
* WS server side out - no problem, if you serve HTTP requests then you 
are in the Java EE world

But other things are not fine:
* JAXB out - problem, it is perfectly valid to use JAXB in Java SE 
applications
* WS client side out - problem, it is perfectly valid to call web 
services from Java SE applications

Arne

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#37995

Fromj4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2018-01-25 14:18 +0100
Message-ID<p4clfl$5jj$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#37994
Maybe they aim at running JRE on node.js
in the future? See also:

One VM to rule them all · Gilles Duboscq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_fsbsbSYY

What is the server side in, client side out
of node.js? AJAX? I dunno.

You can already try some Graal, I think
JDK 10 has an option to start the VM

with a different byte compiler.

Arne Vajhøj schrieb:
> On 1/22/2018 7:43 PM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:
>> JEP 320: Remove the Java EE and CORBA Modules
>> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/320
>>
>> JDK 11: End of the road for Java EE modules
>> https://jaxenter.com/jdk-11-java-ee-modules-140674.html
> 
> I must admit that I don't get it.
> 
> Some things are fine:
> * CORBA out - no problem, practically nobody has used that the last 15 
> years
> * JTA out - no problem, if you have a transaction manager then you are 
> in Java EE world
> * WS server side out - no problem, if you serve HTTP requests then you 
> are in the Java EE world
> 
> But other things are not fine:
> * JAXB out - problem, it is perfectly valid to use JAXB in Java SE 
> applications
> * WS client side out - problem, it is perfectly valid to call web 
> services from Java SE applications
> 
> Arne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

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#37996

Fromj4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2018-01-25 14:20 +0100
Message-ID<p4clj6$5jj$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#37995
So polyglott means shrinking what is in
the scope of a JRE. Or somehow the notion

of JRE might disappears. Confusing.

j4n bur53 schrieb:
> Maybe they aim at running JRE on node.js
> in the future? See also:
> 
> One VM to rule them all · Gilles Duboscq
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_fsbsbSYY
> 
> What is the server side in, client side out
> of node.js? AJAX? I dunno.
> 
> You can already try some Graal, I think
> JDK 10 has an option to start the VM
> 
> with a different byte compiler.
> 
> Arne Vajhøj schrieb:
>> On 1/22/2018 7:43 PM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:
>>> JEP 320: Remove the Java EE and CORBA Modules
>>> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/320
>>>
>>> JDK 11: End of the road for Java EE modules
>>> https://jaxenter.com/jdk-11-java-ee-modules-140674.html
>>
>> I must admit that I don't get it.
>>
>> Some things are fine:
>> * CORBA out - no problem, practically nobody has used that the last 15 
>> years
>> * JTA out - no problem, if you have a transaction manager then you are 
>> in Java EE world
>> * WS server side out - no problem, if you serve HTTP requests then you 
>> are in the Java EE world
>>
>> But other things are not fine:
>> * JAXB out - problem, it is perfectly valid to use JAXB in Java SE 
>> applications
>> * WS client side out - problem, it is perfectly valid to call web 
>> services from Java SE applications
>>
>> Arne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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