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| First post | 2017-02-15 11:43 +0000 |
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Re: pronunciation of "ArithmeticException" Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:43 +0000
Re: pronunciation of "ArithmeticException" Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2017-02-15 09:40 -0800
Re: pronunciation of "ArithmeticException" Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-02-15 19:49 +0100
Re: pronunciation of "ArithmeticException" Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 11:36 -0800
| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-15 11:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: pronunciation of "ArithmeticException" |
| Message-ID | <o81et5$baq$1@dont-email.me> |
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 02:23:12 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote: > How does one pronounce »arithmetic«? > > The adjective is pronounced »,arith'metic«, where »,« precedes a weak > accent and »'« precedes a strong accent (primary stress). > Agreed. > The noun is pronounced »a'rithmetic«. > I usually hear and say the nuon with equal stress on all all syllables. > And in »java.lang.ArithmeticException« is it a noun or an adjective? IANALL but I think it counts as an adjective in this case because the exception name is really a composite of two words. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
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| From | Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-15 09:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1c49ac1adh8j21n0m6p2t3oce9onbrmlc2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #36264 |
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:43:33 -0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
<martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 02:23:12 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:
>
>> How does one pronounce »arithmetic«?
>>
>> The adjective is pronounced »,arith'metic«, where »,« precedes a weak
>> accent and »'« precedes a strong accent (primary stress).
>>
>Agreed.
>
>> The noun is pronounced »a'rithmetic«.
>>
>I usually hear and say the nuon with equal stress on all all syllables.
>
>> And in »java.lang.ArithmeticException« is it a noun or an adjective?
>
>IANALL but I think it counts as an adjective in this case because the
>exception name is really a composite of two words.
The pronunciation could be either.
I am a native English speaker who minored in Math. I would use
the adjectival pronunciation. Someone less math-oriented would
probably use the nounal pronunciation since the adjective form is
likely unknown to him.
English has <adj><noun> and <noun><noun> constructions.
Respective examples are "red wine" and "house wine". Both fit here.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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| From | Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> |
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| Date | 2017-02-15 19:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o827rm$fl6$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #36268 |
Am 15.02.2017 um 18:40 schrieb Gene Wirchenko:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:43:33 -0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
> <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 02:23:12 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>
>>> How does one pronounce »arithmetic«?
>>>
>>> The adjective is pronounced »,arith'metic«, where »,« precedes a weak
>>> accent and »'« precedes a strong accent (primary stress).
>>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> The noun is pronounced »a'rithmetic«.
>>>
>> I usually hear and say the nuon with equal stress on all all syllables.
>>
>>> And in »java.lang.ArithmeticException« is it a noun or an adjective?
>>
>> IANALL but I think it counts as an adjective in this case because the
>> exception name is really a composite of two words.
>
> The pronunciation could be either.
>
> I am a native English speaker who minored in Math. I would use
> the adjectival pronunciation. Someone less math-oriented would
> probably use the nounal pronunciation since the adjective form is
> likely unknown to him.
>
> English has <adj><noun> and <noun><noun> constructions.
> Respective examples are "red wine" and "house wine". Both fit here.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>
I'd not use the adjectival construction, because I would not classify
the exception as arithmetic. Rather, it is an exception with regard to
arithmetic ;-)
-- Sebastian
cf. http://www.oedilf.com/db/Lim.php?Word=arithmetic
and also (attrib. Leigh Mercer):
(12 + 144 + 20 + 3 x √4) / 7 + 5 x 11 = 9² + 0
A dozen, a gross, and a score
Plus three times the square root of four
Divided by seven
Plus five times eleven
Is nine squared and not a bit more.
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| From | Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-15 11:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a798dddc-0467-4c47-8202-fb4f798a6353@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #36268 |
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 12:40:26 PM UTC-5, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > English has <adj><noun> and <noun><noun> constructions. > Respective examples are "red wine" and "house wine". Both fit here. > > Sincerely, > > Gene Wirchenko Indeed. 1) Write an arithmetic equation. (emphasis on the met) 2) Study your arithmetic. (emphasis on the arith)
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