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  Re: What is left alive? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-11-29 20:15 -0500
    Re: What is left alive? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 01:20 -0800

#35992 — Re: What is left alive?

On 11/29/2016 7:05 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>   So, they say
>
>       - Java applets are dead

Stone dead.

>       - Java on the desktop is dead

Depends on the definition of dead.

:-)

Relative little market.

But there are people that make their living writing Java desktop apps.

Including some here.

>   So, what is still alive?
>
>       - Java on the server (JEE)

Yes

>       - Java on Android

Yes

>   Anything else?

Big data.

Hadoop and all the stuff around it and similar stuff.

>   Maybe
>
>       - Java as a teaching language
>
>   But maybe Python is threatening Java as a teaching
>   language?

I don't think so.

I think that teaching Python to non-IT people that need to
"program" makes sense.

But for teaching IT people I think Java (or C#) is a much
better choice.

>   Is Node.js a threat on the server?

I don't see node.js competing much with Java EE. Light vs heavy.

Most of those that use node.js would otherwise have been using PHP or RoR.

>   And Java on Android is not real Java (it is not Java SE, no
>   AWT, no Swing, no JavaFX).

True.

But it is enough Java to be a Java skill.

Think of Android GUI like SWT - just another third party GUI framwork.

>                             (Yes, IIRC there is a project to
>   bring JavaFX to Android, why does Oracle not do this more
>   aggressively bringing a JDK for Android?)

I thought Java SE Embedded actually did run on Android.

But anyway - no matter what Oracle does to bring SE and JavaFX to
Android, then I can not see it push the Android GUI out.

And more importantly - I can not see Oracle making big money
on it.

Arne

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On Wednesday, 30 November 2016 01:15:25 UTC, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:

> >       - Java on the desktop is dead
> 
> Depends on the definition of dead.

Was that ever alive?

> >       - Java on the server (JEE)
> >       - Java on Android

Technically, this is not "what's left". It's the vast majority of Java systems today on the market. 

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