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Re: Java is faster!

Started byRoedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com>
First post2016-09-30 03:05 -0700
Last post2016-10-01 11:12 -0400
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  Re: Java is faster! Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-30 03:05 -0700
    Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-01 12:50 +0200
      Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-01 12:53 +0200
        Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-01 11:36 -0400
          Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-01 23:39 +0200
            Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-02 08:32 -0400
              Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-02 18:36 +0200
                Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-02 20:08 -0400
                  Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-03 10:54 +0200
                    Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-03 10:55 +0200
                      Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-03 11:01 +0200
                        Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-03 19:56 -0400
                          Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-04 11:08 +0200
                            Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-04 19:50 -0400
                    Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-03 19:59 -0400
                      Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-03 20:04 -0400
                        Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-03 20:14 -0400
        Re: Java is faster! Brixomatic <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-05 11:02 +0200
        Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-06 19:55 +0200
          Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-06 20:22 +0200
          Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-06 18:16 -0400
            Re: Java is faster! j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-10-07 02:51 +0200
              Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-08 09:56 -0400
      Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-01 11:19 -0400
    Re: Java is faster! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-10-01 11:12 -0400

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#35734

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-10-06 18:16 -0400
Message-ID<nt6ifn$19e9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35732
On 10/6/2016 1:55 PM, j4n bur53 wrote:
> And still there seems a way:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12669606/windows-8-store-certification-for-a-windows-desktop-app-written-in-java

I believe Project Centennial is the desktop bridge already mentioned.

Big question is what it actually does. It is at least some places
referenced to as a converter.

Arne

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#35735

Fromj4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2016-10-07 02:51 +0200
Message-ID<nt6rik$5td$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#35734
Someone on SO also told me to also look at side loading:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/deploy/sideload-apps-in-windows-10

To could serve as a testing environment, before going
into the windows store. It has been simplified from Windos 8
to Windows 10.

Arne Vajhøj schrieb:
> On 10/6/2016 1:55 PM, j4n bur53 wrote:
>> And still there seems a way:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12669606/windows-8-store-certification-for-a-windows-desktop-app-written-in-java
>>
>
> I believe Project Centennial is the desktop bridge already mentioned.
>
> Big question is what it actually does. It is at least some places
> referenced to as a converter.
>
> Arne
>
>

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#35741

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-10-08 09:56 -0400
Message-ID<ntatve$9dh$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35735
On 10/6/2016 8:51 PM, j4n bur53 wrote:
> Someone on SO also told me to also look at side loading:
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/deploy/sideload-apps-in-windows-10
>
> To could serve as a testing environment, before going
> into the windows store. It has been simplified from Windos 8
> to Windows 10.

I believe that side load is your own store meaning your rules.

It is still not clear to me how the the desktop bridge make
a general win32 app run inside the sandbox.

But lots of things is possible.

MS just announced that they will make the Edge browser run
in a temporary VM for insecure sites.

Arne

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#35679

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-10-01 11:19 -0400
Message-ID<nsok61$18g4$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35675
On 10/1/2016 6:50 AM, j4n bur53 wrote:
> What is Jet? This one?
> https://www.excelsiorjet.com/

Yep.

Arne

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#35677

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-10-01 11:12 -0400
Message-ID<nsojop$17s6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35673
On 9/30/2016 6:05 AM, Roedy Green wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2016 13:31:38 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
> wrote:
>>      "Java is faster!
>>      In terms of throughput in a long running system ...
>>      For specific applications ...
>>      On a well tuned JVM ...
>>      With near-optimal GC strategy selected ..."
>>
>>  says Chandler Carruth, one of Google's C++ experts. (JFTR)
>
> I wrote some time ago about how astoundingly clever Jet was at
> optimising  code generation. I was far faster than anything a human
> assembler programmer would generate. It was convoluted, but fast.

I doubt that Google use Jet.

Arne

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