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  Ask not for whom the bell tolls maherrj@googlemail.com - 2016-02-10 14:21 -0800
    Re: Ask not for whom the bell tolls Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 16:10 -0800
    Re: Ask not for whom the bell tolls Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-10 19:33 -0500
    Re: Ask not for whom the bell tolls Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-02-10 21:37 -0500

#33755 — Ask not for whom the bell tolls

As for Java on the server, the competition is heating up: -

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ASPNET5IsDeadIntroducingASPNETCore10AndNETCore10.aspx

Linux and OS/X and nothing to do with MONO.

Is Java the new COBOL?

IMHO Larry should've got into bed with Google rather punch them in the nose! At least then we might still have my beloved Applets.

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#33756

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:21:31 PM UTC-8, mah...@googlemail.com wrote:
> As for Java on the server, the competition is heating up: -
> 
> http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ASPNET5IsDeadIntroducingASPNETCore10AndNETCore10.aspx

Given that this is not ready yet, we shall see if it merits the handle "competition".

> Linux and OS/X and nothing to do with MONO.
> 
> Is Java the new COBOL?

Given that COBOL remains in production after nearly sixty years and remains a viable platform, one can only hope so.

> IMHO Larry should've got into bed with Google rather punch them in the nose! At least then we might still have my beloved Applets.

You're nearly the only one.

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Lew

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#33758

On 2/10/2016 5:21 PM, maherrj@googlemail.com wrote:
> As for Java on the server, the competition is heating up: -
> 
> http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ASPNET5IsDeadIntroducingASPNETCore10AndNETCore10.aspx
> 
> Linux and OS/X and nothing to do with MONO.
> 
> Is Java the new COBOL?
> 
> IMHO Larry should've got into bed with Google rather punch them in the nose! At least then we might still have my beloved Applets.
> 

That would be good.  According to IBM estimates, there are more than 2
billion lines of COBOL code created each year.

I'd love to see that much Java code created.

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#33759

On 2/10/2016 5:21 PM, maherrj@googlemail.com wrote:
> As for Java on the server, the competition is heating up: -
>
> http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ASPNET5IsDeadIntroducingASPNETCore10AndNETCore10.aspx
>
> Linux and OS/X and nothing to do with MONO.

I expect the impact to be very little.

It will change choice for those that:
* have a mandatory requirement to run on Linux (or OS/X but that is not
  a server OS)
* prefer ASP.NET over other web frameworks (Java EE, PHP, RoR etc.)
* have a mandatory requirement for the web framework to be backed by a
   B$ company (Microsoft size is OK, Xamarin size is not OK)

I don't think many companies will match all those.

> Is Java the new COBOL?

Not yet.

Java is still going up.

But it seems very likely that it eventually will be (eventually
programming language start to decline). Just give it 20-30 more years.

> IMHO Larry should've got into bed with Google rather punch them in the nose!

I think that would have been good for Java.

Make embedded Java SE and Dalvik/ART merge.

> At least then we might still have my beloved Applets.

I don't think so. Google is also on the "HTML 5" train.

Arne

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