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Re: Return of the Applets?

Started byArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
First post2015-04-05 21:34 -0400
Last post2015-04-06 07:24 -0400
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  Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 21:34 -0400
    Re: Return of the Applets? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-06 07:05 -0400
      Re: Return of the Applets? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-06 07:24 -0400

#31488 — Re: Return of the Applets?

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2015-04-05 21:34 -0400
SubjectRe: Return of the Applets?
Message-ID<5521e290$0$283$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
On 4/5/2015 12:09 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>    But the advantage of JavaScript is that it can interact with
>    a web page of flexible size, while both applets and apps run
>    in a rectangle of a fixed size, which does not blend in well
>    with responsive web design.

I know nothing about Chrome and Android apps.

But applets are not fixed size.

You can resize the applet area from JavaScript and the Java applet
can react to resize and do whatever it want to do to accommodate
the new size.

RWD is possible for JavaScript and Java applet page.

I am not so sure that it is practical - in many ways it will be
a duplicate of work to keep the two in synch.

But I think that is a general problem from trying to do UI in
two technologies and not a JavaScript and Java applet specific
problem.

Arne

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#31490

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-04-06 07:05 -0400
Message-ID<mftpbp$7vi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#31488
On 04/05/2015 09:34 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/5/2015 12:09 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>    But the advantage of JavaScript is that it can interact with
>>    a web page of flexible size, while both applets and apps run
>>    in a rectangle of a fixed size, which does not blend in well
>>    with responsive web design.
>
> I know nothing about Chrome and Android apps.
>
> But applets are not fixed size.
>
> You can resize the applet area from JavaScript and the Java applet
> can react to resize and do whatever it want to do to accommodate
> the new size.
>
> RWD is possible for JavaScript and Java applet page.
>
> I am not so sure that it is practical - in many ways it will be
> a duplicate of work to keep the two in synch.
>
> But I think that is a general problem from trying to do UI in
> two technologies and not a JavaScript and Java applet specific
> problem.
>
I'm fairly certain your last two paragraphs sum up the gist of
Stefan Ram's
"Android apps are now running in the Chrome browser. What does
   this remind me of?"
After reading his post I wanted to see what an Android app running
in the Chrome browser looked like. Without installing the Chrome
browser of course. I found a Youtube video, and indeed as I expected
it looked like a phone display. Yes, anything is possible but...

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#31491

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-04-06 07:24 -0400
Message-ID<mftqg2$bu6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#31490
On 04/06/2015 07:05 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 09:34 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 4/5/2015 12:09 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>    But the advantage of JavaScript is that it can interact with
>>>    a web page of flexible size, while both applets and apps run
>>>    in a rectangle of a fixed size, which does not blend in well
>>>    with responsive web design.
>>
>> I know nothing about Chrome and Android apps.
>>
>> But applets are not fixed size.
>>
>> You can resize the applet area from JavaScript and the Java applet
>> can react to resize and do whatever it want to do to accommodate
>> the new size.
>>
>> RWD is possible for JavaScript and Java applet page.
>>
>> I am not so sure that it is practical - in many ways it will be
>> a duplicate of work to keep the two in synch.
>>
>> But I think that is a general problem from trying to do UI in
>> two technologies and not a JavaScript and Java applet specific
>> problem.
>>
> I'm fairly certain your last two paragraphs sum up the gist of
> Stefan Ram's
> "Android apps are now running in the Chrome browser. What does
>    this remind me of?"
> After reading his post I wanted to see what an Android app running
> in the Chrome browser looked like. Without installing the Chrome
> browser of course. I found a Youtube video, and indeed as I expected
> it looked like a phone display. Yes, anything is possible but...
>
Although the visual at the top of the page here:
<http://archon-runtime.github.io/>
shows some promise.


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