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Returning to Java - have questions

Started byJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
First post2015-01-21 23:06 -0500
Last post2015-01-25 15:33 -0500
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  Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-21 23:06 -0500
    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 06:48 -0500
      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 09:07 -0500
        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 09:41 -0500
          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 11:11 -0500
            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 20:06 -0500
              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 20:59 -0500
                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 21:18 -0500
                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 21:47 -0500
                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-23 08:08 -0500
                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-23 08:27 -0500
                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-23 09:41 -0500
                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-23 09:59 -0500
                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-23 10:52 -0500
                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-23 11:49 -0500
                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions FredK <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com> - 2015-01-23 14:26 -0800
                              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-23 19:27 -0500
                                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-23 19:52 -0500
                                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-23 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-23 20:47 -0500
                                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 07:28 -0500
                                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 07:40 -0500
                                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 08:04 -0500
                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 09:05 -0500
                                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 09:10 -0500
                                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 10:34 -0500
                                              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:34 -0500
                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:11 -0500
                                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 10:35 -0500
                                              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:56 -0500
                                                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 11:47 -0500
                                                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 11:51 -0500
                                                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 11:57 -0500
                                                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 12:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 15:29 -0500
                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 10:32 -0500
                                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:57 -0500
                                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 10:31 -0500
                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:58 -0500
                                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 10:31 -0500
                                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:59 -0500
                                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 09:36 -0500
                                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 10:38 -0500
                                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:36 -0500
                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 10:46 -0500
                                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 11:49 -0500
                                              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 11:52 -0500
                                                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 11:58 -0500
                                                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 11:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 15:30 -0500
                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 11:49 -0500
                                            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 11:49 -0500
                                              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 11:58 -0500
                                                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 12:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 15:30 -0500
                                                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-01-26 09:18 -0800
                                                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-26 13:09 -0500
                                                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-01-26 11:22 -0800
                                                          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-26 14:44 -0500
                                Re: Returning to Java - have questions FredK <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com> - 2015-01-26 12:00 -0800
                                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-26 15:18 -0500
                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 21:26 -0500
                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 21:48 -0500
                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 11:00 -0500
        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 09:49 -0500
          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 10:11 -0500
          Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 11:12 -0500
            Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 11:01 -0500
              Re: Returning to Java - have questions Brixomatic <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-25 22:49 +0100
                Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 16:58 -0500
                  Re: Returning to Java - have questions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-01-26 09:19 -0800
                    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-26 13:10 -0500
                      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-01-26 11:23 -0800
                        Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-26 14:45 -0500
    Re: Returning to Java - have questions Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-01-22 13:25 +0100
      Re: Returning to Java - have questions Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-22 09:09 -0500
    WORKALIKES (was: Returning to Java - have questions) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-25 13:03 -0500
      Re: WORKALIKES Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-25 15:33 -0500

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#30874

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 10:59 -0500
Message-ID<ma3415$b36$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30861
On 01/25/2015 10:31 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/25/2015 7:28 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/23/2015 08:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2015 7:52 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 01/23/2015 07:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> On 1/23/2015 5:26 PM, FredK wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 8:49:33 AM UTC-8, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/23/2015 10:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 01/23/2015 09:59 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2015 8:08 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 01/22/2015 09:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Which has nothing to do with the look of a button when it is
>>>>>>>>>>> pushed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-February/005874.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe future iterations will give you public behaviors?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You really don't understand.  This has NOTHING to do with
>>>>>>>>> skins.  In
>>>>>>>>> swing it was very easy to set both the pressed and released images
>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>> the button's properties.  With JavaFX you can only set the pressed
>>>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>>> via CSS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, I'm glad you've got it sorted out.
>>>>>>>> So, you're now convinced there is one way to accomplish what you
>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>> That is not the way you want to doit.
>>>>>>>> Maybe file a feature request?
>>>>>>>> Anyway, happy to help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, your updates all along have shown you have no idea what I'm
>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>> about.  I appreciate your attempts to help, but you haven't
>>>>>>> understood a
>>>>>>> word I've said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you can prove me wrong.  Show me how I can change the pressed
>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>> if a Button object without using CSS.  It has to work wither using
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> mouse or keyboard (including accelerator keys - IOW, every way a
>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>> may be pressed).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Swing, it's as simple as calling JButton.setPressedIcon(), passing
>>>>>>> the pressed image (an ImageIcon object).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see this as a step backwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try this:
>>>>>> Call button.setOnMousePressed() to register a callback for the press.
>>>>>> In that callback method, call button.setGraphic() to set the new
>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred, unfortunately, that only works for mouse clicks.  It doesn't help
>>>>> with keyboard entry (which could be the space bar or an accelerator
>>>>> key).
>>>>>
>>>> InputEvent.ANY
>>>
>>> And how does that help?  How does it indicate whether the input event
>>> causes the button to be pressed or not, for instance?
>>>
>>> How about some code which shows what you're claiming will work?
>>>
>>> And then let's see you make it as easy as calling
>>> JButton.setPressedIcon().
>>>
>>
>> Looking in the CSS reference I see Node CSS Pseudo-class - pressed.
>> I'm assuming this is the pressed that you refer to when you say,
>> "It seems with fx the only way you can change the button when
>> it's pressed/not pressed is via css."
>>
>> I'm guessing this Node.pressedProperty is what is changed when
>> you refer to pressed in css.
>>
>>      Button.pressedProperty().addListener(new ChangeListener<Boolean>() {
>>        @Override
>>        public void changed(ObservableValue<? extends Boolean> observable,
>>            Boolean oldValue, Boolean newValue) {
>>          // ...
>>        }
>>      });
>> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>
> Did you look at the doc?
>
> "Whether or not the Node is pressed. Typically this is true when the
> primary mouse button is down, though subclasses may define other mouse
> button state or key state to cause the node to be "pressed"."
>
> What is not clear is whether the Button class overrides this to include
> keys.
>
Please provide an example that demonstrates the difference.

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#30859

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 09:36 -0500
Message-ID<ma2v5s$lq0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30832
On 01/23/2015 08:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/23/2015 7:52 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/23/2015 07:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2015 5:26 PM, FredK wrote:
>>>> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 8:49:33 AM UTC-8, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> On 1/23/2015 10:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/23/2015 09:59 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/23/2015 8:08 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 01/22/2015 09:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which has nothing to do with the look of a button when it is
>>>>>>>>> pushed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-February/005874.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe future iterations will give you public behaviors?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really don't understand.  This has NOTHING to do with skins.  In
>>>>>>> swing it was very easy to set both the pressed and released images
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>> the button's properties.  With JavaFX you can only set the pressed
>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>> via CSS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I'm glad you've got it sorted out.
>>>>>> So, you're now convinced there is one way to accomplish what you want.
>>>>>> That is not the way you want to doit.
>>>>>> Maybe file a feature request?
>>>>>> Anyway, happy to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, your updates all along have shown you have no idea what I'm talking
>>>>> about.  I appreciate your attempts to help, but you haven't
>>>>> understood a
>>>>> word I've said.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you can prove me wrong.  Show me how I can change the pressed image
>>>>> if a Button object without using CSS.  It has to work wither using the
>>>>> mouse or keyboard (including accelerator keys - IOW, every way a button
>>>>> may be pressed).
>>>>>
>>>>> In Swing, it's as simple as calling JButton.setPressedIcon(), passing
>>>>> the pressed image (an ImageIcon object).
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see this as a step backwards.
>>>>
>>>> Try this:
>>>> Call button.setOnMousePressed() to register a callback for the press.
>>>> In that callback method, call button.setGraphic() to set the new image.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fred, unfortunately, that only works for mouse clicks.  It doesn't help
>>> with keyboard entry (which could be the space bar or an accelerator key).
>>>
>> InputEvent.ANY
>
> And how does that help?  How does it indicate whether the input event
> causes the button to be pressed or not, for instance?
>
> How about some code which shows what you're claiming will work?
>
> And then let's see you make it as easy as calling JButton.setPressedIcon().
>
Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary for
me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change 
the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?

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#30868

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 10:38 -0500
Message-ID<ma32jq$44a$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30859
On 1/25/2015 9:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/23/2015 08:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/23/2015 7:52 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 01/23/2015 07:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2015 5:26 PM, FredK wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 8:49:33 AM UTC-8, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/23/2015 10:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>>> On 01/23/2015 09:59 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2015 8:08 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 01/22/2015 09:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which has nothing to do with the look of a button when it is
>>>>>>>>>> pushed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-February/005874.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe future iterations will give you public behaviors?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You really don't understand.  This has NOTHING to do with
>>>>>>>> skins.  In
>>>>>>>> swing it was very easy to set both the pressed and released images
>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>> the button's properties.  With JavaFX you can only set the pressed
>>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>> via CSS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, I'm glad you've got it sorted out.
>>>>>>> So, you're now convinced there is one way to accomplish what you
>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>> That is not the way you want to doit.
>>>>>>> Maybe file a feature request?
>>>>>>> Anyway, happy to help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, your updates all along have shown you have no idea what I'm
>>>>>> talking
>>>>>> about.  I appreciate your attempts to help, but you haven't
>>>>>> understood a
>>>>>> word I've said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you can prove me wrong.  Show me how I can change the pressed
>>>>>> image
>>>>>> if a Button object without using CSS.  It has to work wither using
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mouse or keyboard (including accelerator keys - IOW, every way a
>>>>>> button
>>>>>> may be pressed).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Swing, it's as simple as calling JButton.setPressedIcon(), passing
>>>>>> the pressed image (an ImageIcon object).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see this as a step backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try this:
>>>>> Call button.setOnMousePressed() to register a callback for the press.
>>>>> In that callback method, call button.setGraphic() to set the new
>>>>> image.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fred, unfortunately, that only works for mouse clicks.  It doesn't help
>>>> with keyboard entry (which could be the space bar or an accelerator
>>>> key).
>>>>
>>> InputEvent.ANY
>>
>> And how does that help?  How does it indicate whether the input event
>> causes the button to be pressed or not, for instance?
>>
>> How about some code which shows what you're claiming will work?
>>
>> And then let's see you make it as easy as calling
>> JButton.setPressedIcon().
>>
> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary for
> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
> 

No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
haven't listened to anything I've said.

Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
with JavaFX through other means.

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#30869

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 10:36 -0500
Message-ID<ma32ng$4qm$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30868
On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary for
>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>
>
> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
> haven't listened to anything I've said.

I'm not wasting your time.
>
> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
> with JavaFX through other means.
>
Not here you haven't.

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#30870

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 10:46 -0500
Message-ID<ma339b$8im$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30869
On 01/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary for
>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>
>>
>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>
> I'm not wasting your time.
>>
>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>
> Not here you haven't.
>
>
I'm betting you can't.

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#30879

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 11:49 -0500
Message-ID<ma36qe$nqr$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30870
On 1/25/2015 10:46 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary
>>>> for
>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>
>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>
>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>
>> Not here you haven't.
>>
>>
> I'm betting you can't.
> 

I really don't give a damn what you bet.  You have done nothing but
waste my time.


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#30882

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 11:52 -0500
Message-ID<ma375r$pg2$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30879
On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/25/2015 10:46 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary
>>>>> for
>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>
>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>>
>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>
>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm betting you can't.
>>
>
> I really don't give a damn what you bet.  You have done nothing but
> waste my time.
>
>
I haven't wasted your time.

Put up or shut up.

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#30884

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 11:58 -0500
Message-ID<ma37a3$qm8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30882
On 1/25/2015 11:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/25/2015 10:46 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 01/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem
>>>>> and
>>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>>
>>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm betting you can't.
>>>
>>
>> I really don't give a damn what you bet.  You have done nothing but
>> waste my time.
>>
>>
> I haven't wasted your time.
> 
> Put up or shut up.
> 

Go away, troll.  I have my answer - from someone who actually UNDERSTANDS.


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#30886

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 11:58 -0500
Message-ID<ma37h4$rtg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30884
On 01/25/2015 11:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/25/2015 11:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2015 10:46 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm betting you can't.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I really don't give a damn what you bet.  You have done nothing but
>>> waste my time.
>>>
>>>
>> I haven't wasted your time.
>>
>> Put up or shut up.
>>
>
> Go away, troll.  I have my answer - from someone who actually UNDERSTANDS.
>
>
But you can't share your answer here.
That is very unkind of you Jerry.

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#30897

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 15:30 -0500
Message-ID<ma3jne$ivo$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30886
On 1/25/2015 11:58 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 11:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/25/2015 11:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 1/25/2015 10:46 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm betting you can't.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really don't give a damn what you bet.  You have done nothing but
>>>> waste my time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I haven't wasted your time.
>>>
>>> Put up or shut up.
>>>
>>
>> Go away, troll.  I have my answer - from someone who actually
>> UNDERSTANDS.
>>
>>
> But you can't share your answer here.
> That is very unkind of you Jerry.
> 

I have already shared the answer here, troll.  But you're too stoopid to
see it.

Hint: the answer is in my very first post in this thread.

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#30878

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 11:49 -0500
Message-ID<ma36p4$nqr$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30869
On 1/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> 
>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary for
>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>
>>
>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
> 
> I'm not wasting your time.

You have done nothing but waste my time.  You have shown you have no
understanding on basic button operation, and no knowledge of the methods
and properties involved.

>>
>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>
> Not here you haven't.
> 
> 

No, I haven't.  I got some reliable assistance from another forum.

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#30880

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 11:49 -0500
Message-ID<ma36vj$pg2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30878
On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is necessary for
>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>
>> I'm not wasting your time.
>
> You have done nothing but waste my time.  You have shown you have no
> understanding on basic button operation, and no knowledge of the methods
> and properties involved.
>
>>>
>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>
>> Not here you haven't.
>>
>>
>
> No, I haven't.  I got some reliable assistance from another forum.
>
Just as I thought, you can't.
You've misunderstood the documentation, or your own requirements,
and now refuse to admit it.

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#30885

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 11:58 -0500
Message-ID<ma37b5$qm8$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30880
On 1/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is
>>>>> necessary for
>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>
>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>
>> You have done nothing but waste my time.  You have shown you have no
>> understanding on basic button operation, and no knowledge of the methods
>> and properties involved.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>
>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, I haven't.  I got some reliable assistance from another forum.
>>
> Just as I thought, you can't.
> You've misunderstood the documentation, or your own requirements,
> and now refuse to admit it.
> 

Go away, troll.  I got GOOD assistance on another forum from someone who
UNDERSTANDS.


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#30888

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-01-25 12:01 -0500
Message-ID<ma37mb$rtg$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30885
On 01/25/2015 11:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is
>>>>>> necessary for
>>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can change
>>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the problem and
>>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>
>>> You have done nothing but waste my time.  You have shown you have no
>>> understanding on basic button operation, and no knowledge of the methods
>>> and properties involved.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the case
>>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>>
>>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, I haven't.  I got some reliable assistance from another forum.
>>>
>> Just as I thought, you can't.
>> You've misunderstood the documentation, or your own requirements,
>> and now refuse to admit it.
>>
>
> Go away, troll.  I got GOOD assistance on another forum from someone who
> UNDERSTANDS.
>
>
Very rude of you not to share, Jerry.

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#30898

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-25 15:30 -0500
Message-ID<ma3jo6$ivo$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30888
On 1/25/2015 12:01 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 01/25/2015 11:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 1/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 01/25/2015 11:49 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 1/25/2015 10:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>> On 01/25/2015 10:38 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will you please post whatever code, xml, css, etc. that is
>>>>>>> necessary for
>>>>>>> me to run an example of "It seems with fx the only way you can
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> the button when it's pressed/not pressed is via css."?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you have only wasted my time.  You don't understand the
>>>>>> problem and
>>>>>> haven't listened to anything I've said.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not wasting your time.
>>>>
>>>> You have done nothing but waste my time.  You have shown you have no
>>>> understanding on basic button operation, and no knowledge of the
>>>> methods
>>>> and properties involved.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please stop wasting my time.  I have already verified this is the
>>>>>> case
>>>>>> with JavaFX through other means.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not here you haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, I haven't.  I got some reliable assistance from another forum.
>>>>
>>> Just as I thought, you can't.
>>> You've misunderstood the documentation, or your own requirements,
>>> and now refuse to admit it.
>>>
>>
>> Go away, troll.  I got GOOD assistance on another forum from someone who
>> UNDERSTANDS.
>>
>>
> Very rude of you not to share, Jerry.
> 

I don't concern myself with what trolls think.

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#30917

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-01-26 09:18 -0800
Message-ID<3ktcca9mobbne7b5bv6q2gue7ed6904ibt@4ax.com>
In reply to#30898
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:30:29 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

[snip]

>I don't concern myself with what trolls think.

     Of course you do.  If you really did not, you would have stopping
posting to this thread.  Killfiles are your friend.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#30921

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-26 13:09 -0500
Message-ID<ma5vra$c8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30917
On 1/26/2015 12:18 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:30:29 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> I don't concern myself with what trolls think.
> 
>      Of course you do.  If you really did not, you would have stopping
> posting to this thread.  Killfiles are your friend.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko
> 

Horse hockey.

Maybe YOU do.  But don't attribute YOUR actions to me.

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#30924

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-01-26 11:22 -0800
Message-ID<9t4dcaht4dno1b6afhrna782vrbcodlfrm@4ax.com>
In reply to#30921
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:09:12 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>On 1/26/2015 12:18 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:30:29 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>>> I don't concern myself with what trolls think.
>> 
>>      Of course you do.  If you really did not, you would have stopping
>> posting to this thread.  Killfiles are your friend.

>Horse hockey.
>
>Maybe YOU do.  But don't attribute YOUR actions to me.

     I am not.

     If you want to continue to be upset about a troll, go right ahead
continuing to feed him.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#30926

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2015-01-26 14:44 -0500
Message-ID<ma65db$rvg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30924
On 1/26/2015 2:22 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:09:12 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/26/2015 12:18 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:30:29 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> I don't concern myself with what trolls think.
>>>
>>>      Of course you do.  If you really did not, you would have stopping
>>> posting to this thread.  Killfiles are your friend.
> 
>> Horse hockey.
>>
>> Maybe YOU do.  But don't attribute YOUR actions to me.
> 
>      I am not.
> 
>      If you want to continue to be upset about a troll, go right ahead
> continuing to feed him.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko
> 

Yes, you are attributing YOUR actions to me.  You have no idea WHY I
respond to him.  Only that I do.

But then it looks like you're just trolling, also.  Not surprising.


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#30929

FromFredK <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com>
Date2015-01-26 12:00 -0800
Message-ID<2b7ddfd1-ad9b-4637-a506-81697639d863@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#30829
On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-8, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/23/2015 5:26 PM, FredK wrote:
> > On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 8:49:33 AM UTC-8, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >> On 1/23/2015 10:52 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> >>> On 01/23/2015 09:59 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >>>> On 1/23/2015 8:08 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> >>>>> On 01/22/2015 09:47 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which has nothing to do with the look of a button when it is pushed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> <http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-February/005874.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe future iterations will give you public behaviors?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You really don't understand.  This has NOTHING to do with skins.  In
> >>>> swing it was very easy to set both the pressed and released images via
> >>>> the button's properties.  With JavaFX you can only set the pressed image
> >>>> via CSS.
> >>>
> >>> OK, I'm glad you've got it sorted out.
> >>> So, you're now convinced there is one way to accomplish what you want.
> >>> That is not the way you want to doit.
> >>> Maybe file a feature request?
> >>> Anyway, happy to help.
> >>>
> >>
> >> No, your updates all along have shown you have no idea what I'm talking
> >> about.  I appreciate your attempts to help, but you haven't understood a
> >> word I've said.
> >>
> >> But you can prove me wrong.  Show me how I can change the pressed image
> >> if a Button object without using CSS.  It has to work wither using the
> >> mouse or keyboard (including accelerator keys - IOW, every way a button
> >> may be pressed).
> >>
> >> In Swing, it's as simple as calling JButton.setPressedIcon(), passing
> >> the pressed image (an ImageIcon object).
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> I see this as a step backwards.
> > 
> > Try this:
> > Call button.setOnMousePressed() to register a callback for the press.
> > In that callback method, call button.setGraphic() to set the new image.
> > 
> 
> Fred, unfortunately, that only works for mouse clicks.  It doesn't help
> with keyboard entry (which could be the space bar or an accelerator key).
> 

Well, you can just call button.setOnKeyPressed() to register a similar callback, which checks calls setGraphics() if the key is the appropriate key..
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