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| Started by | w.tom.adams@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2014-07-02 10:41 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-07-14 13:39 +0100 |
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How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-02 10:41 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-02 14:01 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-02 21:14 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-02 23:00 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-03 06:01 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-03 08:54 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:20 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-03 10:27 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 21:30 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-11 18:22 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 23:19 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-11 17:34 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 23:21 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:23 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 09:59 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:28 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-08 12:37 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-09 19:33 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-09 20:01 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-10 20:24 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:30 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:12 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-07-05 16:24 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-03 06:37 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-03 06:07 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-03 06:13 -0700
News Reader (was: Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-04 08:02 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-03 21:07 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 02:55 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:26 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2014-07-11 19:43 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-11 20:58 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-11 22:29 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-11 23:01 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:00 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2014-07-11 23:13 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:07 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-07-14 13:11 +0100
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2014-07-14 18:36 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-14 19:32 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:09 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:03 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-08-19 22:18 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:43 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-20 06:50 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 19:01 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 13:47 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:08 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 00:36 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 21:03 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 01:24 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:12 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 21:23 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-20 10:31 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-21 06:17 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 22:46 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 23:23 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-15 10:49 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 13:13 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:21 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 21:27 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-20 10:32 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:17 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:04 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-13 07:30 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 03:15 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-13 10:49 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-13 10:55 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-14 06:48 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 08:16 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-08-15 06:29 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 15:54 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-07-05 16:20 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-07-05 16:22 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-07 10:28 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-07 17:29 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-07 11:54 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 10:01 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-08 12:21 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 11:02 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-08 13:13 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 12:27 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-08 14:28 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 12:36 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-08 08:58 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 13:21 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-09 13:11 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 11:48 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2014-07-10 14:10 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly castal00n <casta-.l00n_3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 12:22 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 15:57 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2014-07-10 18:09 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 16:32 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2014-07-10 19:20 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 17:32 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 21:31 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 22:45 +0000
[OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 23:24 +0000
Re: [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 00:38 +0000
Re: [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 22:44 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:41 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:50 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 19:44 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 23:50 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:34 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:33 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:40 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:45 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:51 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-10 17:14 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 22:20 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-10 18:47 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 23:51 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 19:46 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 23:54 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-07-14 13:32 +0100
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 18:37 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-08 09:00 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-08 21:40 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-08 15:03 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-09 00:28 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:31 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-11 12:33 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 11:01 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-07-11 12:15 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:27 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 21:29 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-07-14 13:39 +0100
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 14:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53bede4a$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #29018 |
On 7/9/2014 7:48 AM, ĵess stone wrote: > In article xg3fxblotela.w3fewhq11ss7$.dlg@40tude.net, Joerg Meier said... >> But it does change whether something is perceived as a request for >> additional information or as an attack on the poster. > > Your hallucinations are not my concern. So you never before heard people object to the word "fuck". Surprising. But then I can inform you that it happens. >> assumed that in a technical forum, most posters were familiar with >> contemporary, topic related language. > > I am familiar with contemporary, Java-related language, but "IoT" is not > a member of that set. It is a general IT term like cloud. Arne
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 18:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpmn9t$11v$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29041 |
In article 53bede4a$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk, Arne Vajhøj said... >>> assumed that in a technical forum, most posters were familiar with >>> contemporary, topic related language. >> >> I am familiar with contemporary, Java-related language, but "IoT" is >> not a member of that set. > > It is a general IT term like cloud. No it's not.
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 19:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53bf2545$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #29043 |
On 7/10/2014 2:50 PM, ĵess stone wrote: > In article 53bede4a$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk, Arne Vajhøj said... >>>> assumed that in a technical forum, most posters were familiar with >>>> contemporary, topic related language. >>> >>> I am familiar with contemporary, Java-related language, but "IoT" is >>> not a member of that set. >> >> It is a general IT term like cloud. > > No it's not. It is. It is all over the general IT web sites and magazines. Arne
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 23:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpn8rf$8r2$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29047 |
In article 53bf2545$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk, Arne Vajhøle said... >>> It is a general IT term like cloud. >> >> No it's not. > > [calls me a liar] No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true.
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 14:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53bedcac$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #29006 |
On 7/8/2014 8:36 AM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:28:45 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote: > >> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:19 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>>> You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request >>>> to rephrase. >>> In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?! >> >> In the "the fuck" part you cut out there. > > Non sequitur. It does not alter the declarative content of the question, > so it can't change what it's asking for. No but using that word may certainly make people a lot less inclined to answer. Arne
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 14:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53bedc65$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #29004 |
On 7/8/2014 8:27 AM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >> Never heard of Google? > > I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. Arne
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 18:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpmmm4$ung$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29038 |
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:33:09 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 7/8/2014 8:27 AM, thinbluernime wrote: >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>> Never heard of Google? >> >> I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. > > Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. You mean, Google can read minds now? So I can query it for "what particular thing Silvio was thinking about when he wrote 'IoT' in <53ba6e3e$0$2967$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, of all the many dozens of things that could be abbreviated to that"? Cool. ;) Oh, wait, Google participates in PRISM so won't the NSA have access to this new capability as well? Then we're all hosed. :(
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 14:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53bedf5c$0$298$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #29040 |
On 7/10/2014 2:40 PM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:33:09 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > >> On 7/8/2014 8:27 AM, thinbluernime wrote: >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>>> Never heard of Google? >>> >>> I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. >> >> Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. > > You mean, Google can read minds now? So I can query it for "what > particular thing Silvio was thinking about when he wrote 'IoT' in > <53ba6e3e$0$2967$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, of all the many dozens of > things that could be abbreviated to that"? No - it would tell you what the common meaning is - and then you would assume that was what he meant. Arne
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 18:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpmnbm$11v$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29042 |
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:45:49 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. >> >> You mean, Google can read minds now? So I can query it for "what >> particular thing Silvio was thinking about when he wrote 'IoT' in >> <53ba6e3e$0$2967$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, of all the many dozens of >> things that could be abbreviated to that"? > > No - it would tell you what the common meaning is - and then you would > assume that was what he meant. But "IoT" doesn't have a "common meaning"; if it did, I would have known what it meant already. It had only esoteric jargon meanings, and there'd be no way for me to know which (if any) was the one Silvio meant.
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| From | Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 17:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lpn37l$8um$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29044 |
On 7/10/2014 1:51 PM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:45:49 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > >>>> Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. >>> >>> You mean, Google can read minds now? So I can query it for "what >>> particular thing Silvio was thinking about when he wrote 'IoT' in >>> <53ba6e3e$0$2967$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, of all the many dozens of >>> things that could be abbreviated to that"? >> >> No - it would tell you what the common meaning is - and then you would >> assume that was what he meant. > > But "IoT" doesn't have a "common meaning"; if it did, I would have known > what it meant already. It had only esoteric jargon meanings, and there'd > be no way for me to know which (if any) was the one Silvio meant. I just googled "IoT". The top results were: 3 ads about "Internet of Things" Wikipedia entry for "Internet of Things" Wikipedia entry for IOT [disambiguation page, listing "Inductive output tube", "In-Out-Through", "inter-operator tariff, "Internet of Things", "Interoperability testing", "Input-Output Transfer", "Index-Organized Table", "Illuminates of Thanateros", and "British Indian Ocean Territory"] News article about Intel creating an IoT group with tech leaders ... and several more pages about Internet of Things." Given all of that information and the original context of his post, one could reasonably assume that the most logical answer was Illuminates of Thanateros... I mean Internet of Things. :-) I'll be fair, I didn't immediately connect "IoT" with "Internet of Things." It took me a few seconds before coming up with a potential acronym; even if I hadn't, Google seems to indicate that "Internet of Things" is by far the most important expansion of that acronym, so much so that I would call it a "common meaning"--even if it's a common meaning that doesn't extend beyond the people who are likely to use it (think something like HTTP or TCP). -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 22:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpn3jg$ufv$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29045 |
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:14:01 -0500, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: >> there'd be no way for me to know which (if any) was the one Silvio >> meant. > > I just googled "IoT". ... > Wikipedia entry for IOT [disambiguation page, listing "Inductive output > tube", "In-Out-Through", "inter-operator tariff, "Internet of Things", > "Interoperability testing", "Input-Output Transfer", "Index-Organized > Table", "Illuminates of Thanateros", and "British Indian Ocean > Territory"] Well, there you go, then. *Nine* different things Silvio could have meant, about half of which might tangentially touch upon this newsgroup's topic.
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| From | Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 18:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lpn8m0$7k6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29046 |
On 7/10/2014 5:20 PM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:14:01 -0500, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: > >>> there'd be no way for me to know which (if any) was the one Silvio >>> meant. >> >> I just googled "IoT". ... >> Wikipedia entry for IOT [disambiguation page, listing "Inductive output >> tube", "In-Out-Through", "inter-operator tariff, "Internet of Things", >> "Interoperability testing", "Input-Output Transfer", "Index-Organized >> Table", "Illuminates of Thanateros", and "British Indian Ocean >> Territory"] > > Well, there you go, then. *Nine* different things Silvio could have > meant, about half of which might tangentially touch upon this newsgroup's > topic. And only one of which makes any sense in context. -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 23:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpn8tb$8r2$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29049 |
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:47:02 -0500, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: > On 7/10/2014 5:20 PM, thinbluernime wrote: >> Well, there you go, then. *Nine* different things Silvio could have >> meant, about half of which might tangentially touch upon this >> newsgroup's topic. > > And [calls me a liar] No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true.
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 19:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53bf25c9$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
| In reply to | #29044 |
On 7/10/2014 2:51 PM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:45:49 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > >>>> Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. >>> >>> You mean, Google can read minds now? So I can query it for "what >>> particular thing Silvio was thinking about when he wrote 'IoT' in >>> <53ba6e3e$0$2967$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, of all the many dozens of >>> things that could be abbreviated to that"? >> >> No - it would tell you what the common meaning is - and then you would >> assume that was what he meant. > > But "IoT" doesn't have a "common meaning"; It does. If you used Google then you would have seen that all the top hits had the same meaning. You may also have noted that everybody else here besides you seemed to have understood it. > if it did, I would have known > what it meant already. That is not a good criteria for "common meaning". Arne
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 23:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpn93n$8r2$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29048 |
In article 53bf25c9$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk, Arne Vajhøle said... >> But "IoT" doesn't have a "common meaning"; > > [calls me a liar] No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > You may also have noted that everybody else here besides you seemed to > have understood it. That nobody else chimed in with "me, too!" posts after I asked my question does not prove that everybody else understood it. It only proves that the ones that didn't had sufficient netiquette not to waste bandwidth on posts that wouldn't add anything new to the discussion. Unlike you, who have made several separate posts whose sole purpose seems to be to falsely accuse me of dishonesty. >> if it did, I would have known >> what it meant already. > > [insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true.
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| From | "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 13:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <K56dnbvyI7uYUl7OnZ2dnUVZ8gydnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #29038 |
Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion.
>
> Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet.
Yes, but it won't provide a satisfying quarrel about nothing.
-- chris
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 18:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lq181e$ti7$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29096 |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:32:04 +0100, Chris Uppal wrote: > Arne Vajhøj wrote: > >> > I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. >> >> Google will provide you the answer much faster than usenet. > > Yes, but [implied insult deleted] No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true.
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| From | Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 09:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lpgti7$6ek$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28998 |
On 7/8/2014 5:01 AM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:54:05 +0200, Silvio wrote: > >> Nobody is saying that it is not very (technically) convenient for the >> software developer to have a complete Java stack available inside the >> users browser. It's just not going to happen anymore with the world >> moving to tablets, smart-phones and ultimately the IoT. > > IoT? What the fuck is IoT? This is unnecessarily cruel of me, but.... Intestines of Toluene Interstate of Trucks Itinerary of Toads Ignominy of Theologians ... Okay, now I'm going to be stuck mentally replacing all discussions of internet of things with intestines of toluene. -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 21:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <53bc492a$0$2862$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #29009 |
On 07/08/2014 04:00 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: > On 7/8/2014 5:01 AM, thinbluernime wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:54:05 +0200, Silvio wrote: >> >>> Nobody is saying that it is not very (technically) convenient for the >>> software developer to have a complete Java stack available inside the >>> users browser. It's just not going to happen anymore with the world >>> moving to tablets, smart-phones and ultimately the IoT. >> >> IoT? What the fuck is IoT? > > This is unnecessarily cruel of me, but.... > > Intestines of Toluene > Interstate of Trucks > Itinerary of Toads > Ignominy of Theologians > > ... > > Okay, now I'm going to be stuck mentally replacing all discussions of > internet of things with intestines of toluene. > Involuntary obesity treatment. There, I said it.
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| From | Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 15:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lphir8$bkt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29010 |
On 7/8/2014 2:40 PM, Silvio wrote: > On 07/08/2014 04:00 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: >> On 7/8/2014 5:01 AM, thinbluernime wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:54:05 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>> >>>> Nobody is saying that it is not very (technically) convenient for the >>>> software developer to have a complete Java stack available inside the >>>> users browser. It's just not going to happen anymore with the world >>>> moving to tablets, smart-phones and ultimately the IoT. >>> >>> IoT? What the fuck is IoT? >> >> This is unnecessarily cruel of me, but.... >> >> Intestines of Toluene >> Interstate of Trucks >> Itinerary of Toads >> Ignominy of Theologians >> >> ... >> >> Okay, now I'm going to be stuck mentally replacing all discussions of >> internet of things with intestines of toluene. >> > > Involuntary obesity treatment. > > There, I said it. But aren't lowercase letters in acronyms reserved for words that would not be upper-cased in titles? -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
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