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| Started by | w.tom.adams@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2014-07-02 10:41 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-07-14 13:39 +0100 |
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How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-02 10:41 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-02 14:01 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-02 21:14 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-02 23:00 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-03 06:01 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-03 08:54 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:20 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-03 10:27 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 21:30 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-11 18:22 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 23:19 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-11 17:34 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 23:21 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:23 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 09:59 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:28 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-08 12:37 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-09 19:33 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-09 20:01 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-10 20:24 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:30 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:12 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-07-05 16:24 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-03 06:37 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-03 06:07 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-03 06:13 -0700
News Reader (was: Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-04 08:02 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-03 21:07 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 02:55 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-06 12:26 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2014-07-11 19:43 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-11 20:58 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-11 22:29 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-11 23:01 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:00 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2014-07-11 23:13 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:07 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-07-14 13:11 +0100
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2014-07-14 18:36 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-07-14 19:32 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:09 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:03 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-08-19 22:18 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:43 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-20 06:50 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 19:01 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 13:47 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:08 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 00:36 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 21:03 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 01:24 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:12 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 21:23 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-20 10:31 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-21 06:17 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 22:46 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 23:23 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-15 10:49 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 13:13 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:21 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 21:27 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-08-20 10:32 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:17 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-12 11:04 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-13 07:30 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 03:15 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-13 10:49 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-13 10:55 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly w.tom.adams@gmail.com - 2014-07-14 06:48 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 08:16 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-08-15 06:29 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Tom Adams <tadamsmar@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 15:54 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-07-05 16:20 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-07-05 16:22 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-07 10:28 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-07 17:29 +0800
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-07 11:54 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 10:01 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-08 12:21 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 11:02 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-08 13:13 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 12:27 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-08 14:28 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 12:36 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-07-08 08:58 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 13:21 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-09 13:11 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 11:48 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2014-07-10 14:10 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly castal00n <casta-.l00n_3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 12:22 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 15:57 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2014-07-10 18:09 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 16:32 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2014-07-10 19:20 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 17:32 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 21:31 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 22:45 +0000
[OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 23:24 +0000
Re: [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 00:38 +0000
Re: [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 22:44 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:41 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:50 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 19:44 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 23:50 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:34 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:33 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:40 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:45 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:51 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-10 17:14 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 22:20 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-10 18:47 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 23:51 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 19:46 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 23:54 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-07-14 13:32 +0100
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 18:37 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-08 09:00 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-08 21:40 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-07-08 15:03 -0500
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-09 00:28 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 14:31 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-07-11 12:33 +0200
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 11:01 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-07-11 12:15 -0700
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 16:27 -0400
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 21:29 +0000
Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-07-14 13:39 +0100
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 13:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <53bbd269$0$2960$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #29001 |
On 07/08/2014 01:02 PM, thinbluernime wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:21:13 +0200, Silvio wrote: > >> On 07/08/2014 12:01 PM, thinbluernime wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:54:05 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>> >>>> Nobody is saying that it is not very (technically) convenient for the >>>> software developer to have a complete Java stack available inside the >>>> users browser. It's just not going to happen anymore with the world >>>> moving to tablets, smart-phones and ultimately the IoT. >>> >>> IoT? What the fuck is IoT? >> >> The last three letters of what you are? > > *I'm* not the one who is apparently a) incapable of expressing himself in > plain, understandable English such that readers don't need to ask him to > rephrase things AND b) incapable of responding usefully when he IS asked > to rephrase things. > You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request to rephrase. Never heard of Google?
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 12:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpgo37$qud$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29002 |
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: > You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request to > rephrase. In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?! > Never heard of Google? I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion.
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| From | Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 14:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vro9ebjorr8e.1grrgifbcs6x0.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #29004 |
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:19 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >> You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request to >> rephrase. > In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?! In the "the fuck" part you cut out there. >> Never heard of Google? > I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. That really says more about you than anyone else, as the answer to your question here is the first result on Google, so if you actually wanted to know instead of bickering, you easily could by now. Liebe Gruesse, Joerg -- Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider ungelesen.
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| From | thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 12:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpgoke$sgs$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29005 |
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:28:45 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:19 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote: > >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>> You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request >>> to rephrase. >> In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?! > > In the "the fuck" part you cut out there. Non sequitur. It does not alter the declarative content of the question, so it can't change what it's asking for. So ... you're both knee-jerk refreshing and responding inside of 1 minute AND nymshifting now? Interesting. >>> Never heard of Google? >> I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. > > That really says more about you than anyone else, as the answer to your > question here is the first result on Google, so if you actually wanted > to know instead of bickering, you easily could by now. The first result for what? There's no Google-friendly query apparent to me here, just a short (so appears incidentally in ten zillion unrelated things) sequence of three letters. Not that that matters. You should have just spelled out whatever it was you meant, rather than expecting everyone else in the world to have to go around looking stuff up just to understand what you write. Indeed, you've spilled more electrons flailing at me and kicking up a whiny fuss in an effort to get *out* of doing so than you'd have spilled just bloody doing it in the first place! So you've failed to communicate effectively to your audience (the ostensible reason for your post mentioning "IoT"); you've failed to save time and effort (the ostensible reason for your cryptically abbreviating whatever "IoT" stands for); in short, you've failed. Spectacularly. Perhaps if you'd just written whatever you were thinking without overthinking how to save a handful of keystrokes you'd have succeeded at both things instead. And perhaps you'll remember this lesson next time you think "Hey, I can save five or six keystrokes here by using an abbreviation nobody knows instead of just spelling something out!"
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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 08:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lpgptv$f2h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29006 |
On 7/8/2014 8:36 AM, thinbluernime wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:28:45 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:19 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote:
>>>> You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request
>>>> to rephrase.
>>> In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?!
>>
>> In the "the fuck" part you cut out there.
>
> Non sequitur. It does not alter the declarative content of the question,
> so it can't change what it's asking for.
Guess who's just made it onto my SL and into my KF?
--
Eric Sosman
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-08 13:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpgr7s$358$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29007 |
In article lpgptv$f2h$1@dont-email.me, Eric Sosman said... > On 7/8/2014 8:36 AM, thinbluernime wrote: >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:28:45 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:19 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>>>> You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request >>>>> to rephrase. >>>> In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?! >>> >>> In the "the fuck" part you cut out there. >> >> Non sequitur. It does not alter the declarative content of the >> question, so it can't change what it's asking for. > > Guess who's just made it onto my SL and into my KF? Nymshifting with every post now? And again, you've ended up spending waaaay more effort on not spelling it out than you would have spent on simply spelling it out. Why is there apparently such great fear of actually writing out what you meant by "IoT"?
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| From | Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2014-07-09 13:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <xg3fxblotela.w3fewhq11ss7$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #29006 |
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:36:30 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:28:45 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote: >> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:19 +0000 (UTC), thinbluernime wrote: >>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:13:45 +0200, Silvio wrote: >>>> You started with the WTF wording which hardly qualifies as a request >>>> to rephrase. >>> In what way is "what ... is IoT?" NOT a request to rephrase?! >> In the "the fuck" part you cut out there. > Non sequitur. It does not alter the declarative content of the question, > so it can't change what it's asking for. But it does change whether something is perceived as a request for additional information or as an attack on the poster. Something you seem perfectly well aware of, considering you yourself cut it out when you tried to make it look like you were just asking for more information instead of being rude. > So ... you're both knee-jerk refreshing and responding inside of 1 minute > AND nymshifting now? Interesting. Yeah, and then I travelled back in time to establish this, uh, "nymshift" (seriously, are you 12 ?) years ahead of this discussion. That's exactly how that went. You saw right through my deception. Good job, Sherlock. I guess nothing gets past you. >>>> Never heard of Google? >>> I don't see the relevance of Google to this discussion. >> That really says more about you than anyone else, as the answer to your >> question here is the first result on Google, so if you actually wanted >> to know instead of bickering, you easily could by now. > The first result for what? There's no Google-friendly query apparent to > me here, just a short (so appears incidentally in ten zillion unrelated > things) sequence of three letters. Go to www.google.com. Enter what you are curious about, in this case, "IoT". Press enter. Read first result. That's how easy it would have been to get your question answered if you actually cared to get it answered and not start a childish fight. > Not that that matters. You should have just spelled out whatever it was > you meant, rather than expecting everyone else in the world to have to go > around looking stuff up just to understand what you write. You are confusing me with Silvio, but speaking for Silvio, he likely assumed that in a technical forum, most posters were familiar with contemporary, topic related language. Explaining every word and term one uses because it's possible that one of the participants of the discussion has been living in a cave and is unable or unwilling to use Google does not seem like a sensible use of anyones time. > Indeed, you've spilled more electrons flailing at me and kicking up a > whiny fuss in an effort to get *out* of doing so than you'd have spilled > just bloody doing it in the first place! So you've failed to communicate > effectively to your audience (the ostensible reason for your post > mentioning "IoT"); you've failed to save time and effort (the ostensible > reason for your cryptically abbreviating whatever "IoT" stands for); in > short, you've failed. Spectacularly. Perhaps if you'd just written > whatever you were thinking without overthinking how to save a handful of > keystrokes you'd have succeeded at both things instead. And perhaps > you'll remember this lesson next time you think "Hey, I can save five or > six keystrokes here by using an abbreviation nobody knows instead of just > spelling something out!" It seems like out of all the participants, you are the only one who didn't understand Silvios post, and your lack of understanding quite clearly stems from your unwillingness to educate yourself in order to overcome your own shortcomings. I don't see why anyone would go through the effort of explaining something to you when you yourself are so unwilling to put in even a minimal amount of effort, while at the same time being rude and acting like a child. As someone new to this forum, you have made one hell of a first impression. Liebe Gruesse, Joerg -- Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider ungelesen.
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-09 11:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpja6q$v2i$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29017 |
In article xg3fxblotela.w3fewhq11ss7$.dlg@40tude.net, Joerg Meier said... > But it does change whether something is perceived as a request for > additional information or as an attack on the poster. Your hallucinations are not my concern. Understanding the meaning of your original post is my concern. > Something you seem perfectly well aware of, considering you yourself > cut it out when you [implies dishonesty on my part] No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > Yeah, and then I travelled back in time to establish this, uh, > "nymshift" (seriously, are you [implied insult deleted] ?) [calls me a > liar]. That's exactly how that went. You [multiple implied insults > deleted]. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > Go to www.google.com. Enter what you are curious about, in this case, > "IoT". Press enter. Read first result. If that actually works, with such a tiny query, then it's by pure accident, since there have to be a zillion unrelated circumstances where those three letters appear in that sequence. And that means that even had I done so, I would have had no way of knowing which, if any, of the results I got actually had to do with your post. Perhaps the fifth, or the tenth, or none of them. > That's how easy it would have been to get your question answered if you > actually cared to get it answered and not [false accusation deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > You are [insult deleted] No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > assumed that in a technical forum, most posters were familiar with > contemporary, topic related language. I am familiar with contemporary, Java-related language, but "IoT" is not a member of that set. > Explaining every word and term one uses because it's possible that one > of the participants of the discussion has been [insult deleted] and is > [insult deleted] does not seem like a sensible use of anyones time. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. Nobody is asking you to explain every word; just to expand abbreviations that a Java developer may not know. > It seems like out of all the participants, you are the only one who > didn't understand I'm the first of them to post. Once I posted, the others had no reason to ask as well as those would then just be pointless "me, too" posts. So it will be common for there to be only one response asking a question. > and your lack of understanding quite clearly stems from your [insult > deleted] in order to overcome your own [insult deleted]. No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > I don't see why anyone would go through the effort of explaining > something to you when you yourself are so [insult deleted], while at > the same time being [insult deleted] and [insult deleted]. As someone > new to this forum, you have [insult deleted]. No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > [suspected insult deleted], > Joerg None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true.
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| From | Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 14:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <lplvrv$chu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29018 |
2014-07-09 13:48, ĵess stone skrev: [nothing of value, but your style and nymshifting to keep within posting quota are a giveaway] Hi Paul! Where have you been hiding? Don't bother to reply. Btw, IoT = Internet of Things. First or second Google hit on just "IoT". As easy to find as ANT. -- Lars Enderin
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| From | castal00n <casta-.l00n_3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 12:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpm0io$ulb$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29024 |
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:10:35 +0200, Lars Enderin wrote: 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer 1> 2014-07-09 13:48, ĵess stone skrev: What was allegedly endured while writing, Enderin? 1> [nothing of value, but your style and nymshifting to keep within 1> posting quota are a giveaway] What does your paranoia have to do with Java, Enderin? 1> Hi Paul! Where have you been hiding? Don't bother to reply. Who is "Paul", Enderin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias. 1> Btw, IoT = Internet of Things. What does that have to do with Java, Enderin? 1> First or second Google hit on just "IoT". What does that have to do with Java, Enderin? 1> As easy to find as ANT. What does your claim have to do with Java, Enderin?
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 15:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpmd4k$jhk$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29024 |
In article lplvrv$chu$1@dont-email.me, Lars Enderin said... > 2014-07-09 13:48, ĵess stone [suspected insult deleted]: No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > [insult deleted][implied insult deleted] No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > Hi Paul! Where have you been hiding? Don't bother to reply. Who the hell is Paul? > Btw, IoT = Internet of Things. *Finally*! A straight answer! Now really, was that so hard? Why not just say so either in the first place or the first time the question was asked? > First or second Google hit on just "IoT". Purely coincidentally, if so. And it still wouldn't have helped, if so, since I wouldn't have been able to be sure which, if any, of the things in the first ten google hits were actually related to what Silvio was trying to say. In any event, what does an "Internet of Things", whatever *that* is, have to do with Java?
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| From | Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 18:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <lpmdsb$dah$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29027 |
2014-07-10 17:57, ĵess stone skrev: > In article lplvrv$chu$1@dont-email.me, Lars Enderin said... > >> Btw, IoT = Internet of Things. > > *Finally*! A straight answer! Now really, was that so hard? Why not just > say so either in the first place or the first time the question was asked? > >> First or second Google hit on just "IoT". > > Purely coincidentally, if so. And it still wouldn't have helped, if so, > since I wouldn't have been able to be sure which, if any, of the things > in the first ten google hits were actually related to what Silvio was > trying to say. I didn't see it before I googled, but then it seemed the most appropriate interpretation. Can you say "intelligent/educated guess"? > In any event, what does an "Internet of Things", whatever *that* is, have > to do with Java? You asked, albeit not politely. -- Lars Enderin
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 16:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpmf61$sml$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29028 |
In article lpmdsb$dah$1@dont-email.me, Lars Enderin said... > I didn't see it before I googled, but then it seemed the most > appropriate interpretation. Can you say "intelligent/educated guess"? Oh, you mean you *guessed* and Silvio still might have meant anything else that could be abbreviated as "IoT"? >> In any event, what does an "Internet of Things", whatever *that* is, >> have to do with Java? > > You asked, albeit [insult deleted]. I only asked because Silvio mentioned it, in a Java newsgroup.
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| From | Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 19:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <53BECB6E.2080003@telia.com> |
| In reply to | #29030 |
2014-07-10 18:32, ĵess stone skrev: > In article lpmdsb$dah$1@dont-email.me, Lars Enderin said... > >> I didn't see it before I googled, but then it seemed the most >> appropriate interpretation. Can you say "intelligent/educated guess"? > > Oh, you mean you *guessed* and Silvio still might have meant anything > else that could be abbreviated as "IoT"? It fit the context. >>> In any event, what does an "Internet of Things", whatever *that* is, >>> have to do with Java? >> >> You asked, albeit [insult deleted]. > > I only asked because Silvio mentioned it, in a Java newsgroup. In a Java context. -- Lars Enderin
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-10 17:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpmine$evi$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29031 |
In article 53BECB6E.2080003@telia.com, Lars Enderin said... >> Oh, you mean you *guessed* and Silvio still might have meant anything >> else that could be abbreviated as "IoT"? > > It fit the context. > >> I only asked because Silvio mentioned it, in a Java newsgroup. > > In a Java context. I still don't know what its significance is here. It was mentioned in the same breath as tablets and smart-phones. So it involves mobile devices, one presumes. From the sounds of it these are *less* likely to support Java, versus a desktop PC or (especially) a server.
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| From | blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-11 21:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c2b3eeFm296U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29024 |
In article <lplvrv$chu$1@dont-email.me>, Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> wrote: > 2014-07-09 13:48, ĵess stone skrev: > > [nothing of value, but your style and nymshifting to keep within posting > quota are a giveaway] > > Hi Paul! Where have you been hiding? Don't bother to reply. > Good(?) catch. I wasn't following this thread, but I do have my newsreader set up to flag your posts, and checking this one and the backstory .... Good heavens. I had wondered from time to time what had become of The Poster Of Many Names. > Btw, IoT = Internet of Things. First or second Google hit on just "IoT". With all due respect, I don't think "first or second Google hit" is a well-defined term these days -- as I understand things, Google tries to customizes the order in which it presents search results based on what it thinks you want (well, that and what it thinks will increase its own profits). When I try a search on "iot" the first hit is indeed the Wikipedia page on Internet of Things. I'm not explicitly signed into Google, but if they're keeping a history of my searches anyway, most of them are for technical/computing information, which could be a factor. For what it's worth, I had not come across this acronym previously but was able to guess the intended meaning after a few seconds' thought. > As easy to find as ANT. Talk about blasts from the past .... -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-11 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lpppef$os6$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29058 |
In article c2b3eeFm296U2@mid.individual.net, blmblm@myrealbox.com said... > Good([suspected implied insult deleted]) catch. No. And who the hell is Paul? I see nobody here going by that name. > For what it's worth, I had not come across this acronym previously but > [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. >> As easy to find as ANT. > > Talk about blasts from the past .... Be careful. Some usenutters are paranoid enough to take our reappearances so close together in time as "proof" that we're sockpuppets of each other.
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| From | blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-12 23:24 +0000 |
| Subject | [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) |
| Message-ID | <c2duclF9c6rU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29061 |
In article <lpppef$os6$1@speranza.aioe.org>, ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> wrote: > In article c2b3eeFm296U2@mid.individual.net, blmblm@myrealbox.com said... > > > Good([suspected implied insult deleted]) catch. > > No. And who the hell is Paul? I see nobody here going by that name. > > > For what it's worth, I had not come across this acronym previously but > > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. Remarkable. > >> As easy to find as ANT. > > > > Talk about blasts from the past .... > > Be careful. Some usenutters are paranoid enough to take our reappearances > so close together in time as "proof" that we're sockpuppets of each other. > Admittedly I don't always resist the temptation to participate in OT discussions such as this one, but anyone who reviews all of my posting history in cljp should notice that I show up from time to time in other discussions as well. (For example, this past winter the group helped me figure out a problem I was having with a JList.) For the record, for what it's worth, etc. -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.
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| From | ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-13 00:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) |
| Message-ID | <lpskek$scl$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #29079 |
In article c2duclF9c6rU3@mid.individual.net, blmblm@myrealbox.com said... >> > For what it's worth, I had not come across this acronym previously >> > but [implied insult deleted] >> >> None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at >> all true. > > Remarkable. How so? >> Be careful. Some usenutters are paranoid enough to take our >> reappearances so close together in time as "proof" that we're >> sockpuppets of each other. > > Admittedly I don't always resist the temptation to participate in OT > discussions such as this one, but anyone who reviews all of my posting > history in cljp should notice that I show up from time to time in other > discussions as well. As do I. In fact, I *really* get around ... more than any one person that isn't me could possibly realize. I was active here last month as well. See if you can spot which posts were mine. ;)
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| From | blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 22:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] posting histories? (was Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly) |
| Message-ID | <c2j4qkFc6erU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29082 |
In article <lpskek$scl$2@speranza.aioe.org>, ĵess stone <jess.st0ne@gmail.com> wrote: > In article c2duclF9c6rU3@mid.individual.net, blmblm@myrealbox.com said... > > >> > For what it's worth, I had not come across this acronym previously > >> > but [implied insult deleted] > >> > >> None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > >> all true. > > > > Remarkable. > > How so? > I'm only responding because it seems rude to ignore a direct question. I'll just say that I'm fairly sure this subject was discussed some years ago, and I doubt that anything useful or entertaining would come of further discussion. > >> Be careful. Some usenutters are paranoid enough to take our > >> reappearances so close together in time as "proof" that we're > >> sockpuppets of each other. > > > > Admittedly I don't always resist the temptation to participate in OT > > discussions such as this one, but anyone who reviews all of my posting > > history in cljp should notice that I show up from time to time in other > > discussions as well. > > As do I. In fact, I *really* get around ... more than any one person that > isn't me could possibly realize. > > I was active here last month as well. See if you can spot which posts > were mine. ;) > I was curious enough to collect all posts since the end of May, remove the ones from posters I'm pretty sure are not you, and .... There were still more than I really cared to read through, and my idea of looking only at those that appeared to be posted from aioe didn't produce a useful result. <shrug> -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.
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