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  Java update blocks vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2014-06-13 00:35 +0000
    Re: Java update blocks Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-06-13 02:35 -0700
    Re: Java update blocks Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-06-13 02:38 -0700
    Re: Java update blocks Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-06-13 13:45 +0200

#28714 — Java update blocks

A lot of public terminals do not allow updating software, so when someone
says ok to updating java, the terminal is stuck in java update mode and will
not run the java software.  By engaging in such brain-dead upgrade-treadmill
behavior, java is committing suicide, because te biggest reason people use
java is on the road and across platforms.


I also wish java would push to have working versions on all versions
of android and linux so we can use java software instead of 
masturbate computers.

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 Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
		    http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---
   [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
 [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]

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#28715

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:35:46 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote, quoted or indirectly
quoted someone who said :

>A lot of public terminals do not allow updating software, so when someone
>says ok to updating java, the terminal is stuck in java update mode and will
>not run the java software.  By engaging in such brain-dead upgrade-treadmill
>behavior, java is committing suicide, because te biggest reason people use
>java is on the road and across platforms.

The problem to me sounds like the people who manage these public
terminals.  They should install updates and turn off any automatic
updates or checks.


You have to have updates every few months now purely to keep up with
patching security breaches.  The only way I could see to fix that
would be a major redesign of CPUs to make security breaches impossible
by keeping each app in an air tight compartment.

The other feature of such a CPU would be to make it possible for code
to run inside a "dark room" where no one could monitor it.  This would
be used to stop piracy.

Part of their problem is just knowing about updates.  I wrote Vercheck
to monitor a set a programs and warn you whenever there are updates. I
currently monitor 109 programs.  See
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/utilities.html
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
In former times, people who craved absolute power became gangsters.
Today, they become computer programmers.

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#28716

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:35:46 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote, quoted or indirectly
quoted someone who said :

>I also wish java would push to have working versions on all versions
>of android and linux so we can use java software instead of 
>masturbate computers.

I have thought about it for several minutes, but that makes no sense. 
I see no connection whatsoever between having recent versions of
software and how frequently my computers masturbate.  Is this
something you want to encourage or discourage?  
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
In former times, people who craved absolute power became gangsters.
Today, they become computer programmers.

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#28717

On 06/13/2014 02:35 AM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> A lot of public terminals do not allow updating software, so when someone
> says ok to updating java, the terminal is stuck in java update mode and will
> not run the java software.  By engaging in such brain-dead upgrade-treadmill
> behavior, java is committing suicide, because te biggest reason people use
> java is on the road and across platforms.
>
>
> I also wish java would push to have working versions on all versions
> of android and linux so we can use java software instead of
> masturbate computers.
>
> 				    - = -
>   Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
> 		    http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
>    ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---
>     [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
>   [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]
>
>
>
>

Now why would anyone have Java installed on a public terminal? That 
makes no sense to me at all. Anyone who targets the general public does 
not expect them to have Java installed.

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