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  Re: Early Remark about Applet security markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-12-08 11:06 -0800
    Re: Early Remark about Applet security Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-09 20:20 -0500
    Re: Early Remark about Applet security Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-09 20:23 -0500

#26779 — Re: Early Remark about Applet security

On 12/8/2013 8:21 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
 >    It is somewhat
>    ironic that during the last few years it were exactly the
>    security problems that have killed not VB/VBA on the web,
>    but Java applets. (The classic VB was »killed« by Microsoft,
>    when they wanted to enforce VB.net.)

Is there any VB/VBA applets left on the web?  Or did I misunderstand 
your question?

Same question for .Net:  What .Net applets do you see?

Maybe it's just the websites that I happen to visit, but I never see a 
.Net applet, and I do occasionally see a Java applet.

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#26810

On 12/8/2013 2:06 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 12/8/2013 8:21 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>  >    It is somewhat
>>    ironic that during the last few years it were exactly the
>>    security problems that have killed not VB/VBA on the web,
>>    but Java applets. (The classic VB was »killed« by Microsoft,
>>    when they wanted to enforce VB.net.)
>
> Is there any VB/VBA applets left on the web?  Or did I misunderstand
> your question?
>
> Same question for .Net:  What .Net applets do you see?
>
> Maybe it's just the websites that I happen to visit, but I never see a
> .Net applet, and I do occasionally see a Java applet.

The .NET equivalent of a Java applet is really SilverLigth.

And that is still used some places. Probably more than Java applets. Its
usage is declining though because MS has jumped on the "HTML5"
train.

There were also an earlier attempt to make .NET Win Forms
controls hosted in a browser, but that never took off in any way.

Arne

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#26811

On 12/8/2013 2:18 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> writes:
>> Is there any VB/VBA applets left on the web?
>
>    In 1995 Microsoft announced a »Blackbird« tool for 1996 with a
>    Blackbird Viewer for Windows to support OLE controls written in
>    VB 4.0 »as alternatives to Java applets«. At that time, this was
>    regarded as a serious thread for Java applets.

IE has always supported ActiveX controls, but those are somewhat
different from Java applets.

The idea in Java applets was security and no access to PC (with an
option to enable privs).

ActiveX controls in IE was getting full access (I think they can be
sandboxed with Vista and newer) and in that sense was more a browser
extension than an applet.

Actually I believe that Java plugin for IE is an ActiveX control.

Arne

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