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Java and the Atom

Started byRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
First post2013-08-14 15:45 -0700
Last post2013-08-15 20:36 -0400
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  Java and the Atom Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-08-14 15:45 -0700
    Re: Java and the Atom Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-14 18:54 -0400
      Re: Java and the Atom Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2013-08-15 12:06 -0500
        Re: Java and the Atom Arivald <NOSPAMarivald@interia.pl> - 2013-08-15 21:42 +0200
          Re: Java and the Atom Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-15 20:37 -0400
        Re: Java and the Atom Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@gmail.com> - 2013-08-15 15:22 -0500
        Re: Java and the Atom Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2013-08-15 23:05 +0200
        Re: Java and the Atom Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-15 20:36 -0400

#24982 — Java and the Atom

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2013-08-14 15:45 -0700
SubjectJava and the Atom
Message-ID<5q1o09hkfffrvnu5v2c8sa3lv1ei1bb9un@4ax.com>
I noticed that all the low end notebooks in the stores run Windows 8,
but use an Atom processor that they try to disguise.

Can these things run Java?

How do they do it? Is there a native code java.exe in atom machine
language somewhere?

Do you use the usual X64 Java.exe and run some sort of Intel
interpreter?
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Truth is much too complicated to allow anything but approximations. 
 ~ John von Neumann (born: 1903-12-28 died: 1957-02-08 at age: 53)

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#24985

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2013-08-14 18:54 -0400
Message-ID<520c0aa5$0$304$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#24982
On 8/14/2013 6:45 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> I noticed that all the low end notebooks in the stores run Windows 8,
> but use an Atom processor that they try to disguise.
>
> Can these things run Java?
>
> How do they do it? Is there a native code java.exe in atom machine
> language somewhere?
>
> Do you use the usual X64 Java.exe and run some sort of Intel
> interpreter?

Atom is just a family of Intel CPU's with low power
consumption.

They are x86-64 CPU's and your standard 32 and 64 bit
Windows Java will work fine.

No special Intel interpreter necessary.

Arne

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#24999

FromLynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com>
Date2013-08-15 12:06 -0500
Message-ID<kuj1qb$nv5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#24985
On 8/14/2013 5:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/14/2013 6:45 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>> I noticed that all the low end notebooks in the stores run Windows 8,
>> but use an Atom processor that they try to disguise.
>>
>> Can these things run Java?
>>
>> How do they do it? Is there a native code java.exe in atom machine
>> language somewhere?
>>
>> Do you use the usual X64 Java.exe and run some sort of Intel
>> interpreter?
>
> Atom is just a family of Intel CPU's with low power
> consumption.
>
> They are x86-64 CPU's and your standard 32 and 64 bit
> Windows Java will work fine.
>
> No special Intel interpreter necessary.
>
> Arne

Is there an x64 atom out now?  All of the atoms
previously were x86 only.

Lynn

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#25003

FromArivald <NOSPAMarivald@interia.pl>
Date2013-08-15 21:42 +0200
Message-ID<kujb3t$4r9$1@news.dialog.net.pl>
In reply to#24999
W dniu 2013-08-15 19:06, Lynn McGuire pisze:
> On 8/14/2013 5:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/14/2013 6:45 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>>> I noticed that all the low end notebooks in the stores run Windows 8,
>>> but use an Atom processor that they try to disguise.
>>>
>>> Can these things run Java?
>>>
>>> How do they do it? Is there a native code java.exe in atom machine
>>> language somewhere?
>>>
>>> Do you use the usual X64 Java.exe and run some sort of Intel
>>> interpreter?
>>
>> Atom is just a family of Intel CPU's with low power
>> consumption.
>>
>> They are x86-64 CPU's and your standard 32 and 64 bit
>> Windows Java will work fine.
>>
>> No special Intel interpreter necessary.
>>
>> Arne
>
> Is there an x64 atom out now?  All of the atoms
> previously were x86 only.

Is Java x64 only? No, just use 32-bit Java.

-- 
Arivald

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#25012

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2013-08-15 20:37 -0400
Message-ID<520d7461$0$303$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#25003
On 8/15/2013 3:42 PM, Arivald wrote:
> W dniu 2013-08-15 19:06, Lynn McGuire pisze:
>> On 8/14/2013 5:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 8/14/2013 6:45 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>>>> I noticed that all the low end notebooks in the stores run Windows 8,
>>>> but use an Atom processor that they try to disguise.
>>>>
>>>> Can these things run Java?
>>>>
>>>> How do they do it? Is there a native code java.exe in atom machine
>>>> language somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Do you use the usual X64 Java.exe and run some sort of Intel
>>>> interpreter?
>>>
>>> Atom is just a family of Intel CPU's with low power
>>> consumption.
>>>
>>> They are x86-64 CPU's and your standard 32 and 64 bit
>>> Windows Java will work fine.
>>>
>>> No special Intel interpreter necessary.
>>
>> Is there an x64 atom out now?  All of the atoms
>> previously were x86 only.
>
> Is Java x64 only? No, just use 32-bit Java.

That was already mentioned, so I think she was just
curious.

Arne

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#25004

FromIan Pilcher <arequipeno@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-15 15:22 -0500
Message-ID<fMaPt.101798$Ct1.38470@fx21.iad>
In reply to#24999
On 08/15/2013 12:06 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Is there an x64 atom out now?  All of the atoms
> previously were x86 only.

Yes.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom.

-- 
========================================================================
Ian Pilcher                                         arequipeno@gmail.com
Sometimes there's nothing left to do but crash and burn...or die trying.
========================================================================

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#25006

FromFlorian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Date2013-08-15 23:05 +0200
Message-ID<877gfm7jgt.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
In reply to#24999
* Lynn McGuire:

> Is there an x64 atom out now?  All of the atoms
> previously were x86 only.

fw@x-1:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo  | head
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 28
model name      : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU  230   @ 1.60GHz
stepping        : 2
cpu MHz         : 1596.086
cache size      : 512 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
fw@x-1:~$ uname -a
Linux x-1 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri May 10 08:43:19 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
fw@x-1:~$ 

I bought this machine in early 2010.

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#25011

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2013-08-15 20:36 -0400
Message-ID<520d7429$0$303$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#24999
On 8/15/2013 1:06 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 8/14/2013 5:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/14/2013 6:45 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>>> I noticed that all the low end notebooks in the stores run Windows 8,
>>> but use an Atom processor that they try to disguise.
>>>
>>> Can these things run Java?
>>>
>>> How do they do it? Is there a native code java.exe in atom machine
>>> language somewhere?
>>>
>>> Do you use the usual X64 Java.exe and run some sort of Intel
>>> interpreter?
>>
>> Atom is just a family of Intel CPU's with low power
>> consumption.
>>
>> They are x86-64 CPU's and your standard 32 and 64 bit
>> Windows Java will work fine.
>>
>> No special Intel interpreter necessary.
>
> Is there an x64 atom out now?  All of the atoms
> previously were x86 only.

I believe the newer ones are x86-64.

Arne

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