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How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array?

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First post2013-05-07 23:30 -0700
Last post2013-05-15 03:50 -0700
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  How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? sout saret <saretmis097@gmail.com> - 2013-05-07 23:30 -0700
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 09:06 +0100
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-05-08 12:29 +0200
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 13:28 +0100
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 15:19 +0200
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 14:57 +0100
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-08 08:22 -0700
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 17:03 +0100
              Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-08 13:44 -0700
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 17:48 +0100
              Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-08 21:10 -0400
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 12:52 -0400
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 17:32 +0200
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 17:17 +0100
              Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 18:46 +0200
                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 18:25 +0100
                  Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 23:24 +0200
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-05-08 11:46 -0500
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-08 21:04 -0400
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 21:45 -0400
              Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-08 21:59 -0400
                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-08 22:03 -0400
                  Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-09 04:09 +0200
                    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-09 04:09 +0200
                  Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 23:18 -0400
                    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-09 22:05 -0400
                      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-10 09:46 -0700
                        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-10 19:02 +0200
                          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-10 11:00 -0700
                            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-10 23:42 +0200
                            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-10 18:20 -0400
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-08 12:43 -0400
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 18:45 +0100
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-08 11:18 -0400
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-05-08 11:52 -0500
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 18:40 +0100
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-05-08 13:54 -0500
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 20:43 +0100
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-11 09:28 +0100
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-11 08:50 -0400
              Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-11 15:00 +0100
                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-12 21:45 -0400
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Manuel Dahmen <manuel.dahmen@gmail.com> - 2013-05-08 15:38 -0700
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-05-11 13:33 -0700
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-12 21:48 -0400
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-05-12 20:49 -0700
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-13 19:08 -0400
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-05-15 03:45 -0700
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-05-15 03:50 -0700

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#24007

Fromlipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk">
Date2013-05-11 15:00 +0100
Message-ID<_I-dnf7s2opi0xPMnZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com>
In reply to#24006
On 11/05/13 13:50, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 4:28 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>> On 08/05/13 19:54, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2013 12:40 PM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>>> On 08/05/13 17:52, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/2013 1:30 AM, sout saret wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Community!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2
>>>>>> dimensional array. I want to show format as below:
>>>>>
>>>>> What format is this two-dimensional array? Looking from your code, you
>>>>> appear to want it to be some sort of 256-byte pixel value, but are you
>>>>> desiring:
>>>>> 1. 8-bit ARGB
>>>>> 2. 5-6-5 RGB
>>>>> 3. 8-bit grayscale
>>>>> 4. 32-bit ARGB
>>>>> 5. 24-bit RGB
>>>>> 6. Binary version of any widely-used image format, including but not
>>>>> limited to PNG, BMP, GIF, JPG, XBM, TIF, and ICO.
>>>>
>>>> I think he wants a byte for byte copy so the first byte gets copied
>>>> into
>>>> [0][0] the next into [1][0] the next [2][0] etc until [width-1][0]
>>>> then start again at [0][1], [1][1], [2][1] etc etc
>>>
>>> A byte for byte copy of what? I'm guessing the answer is the "pixel
>>> matrix", but that's underdefined since pixels can take on many different
>>> formats, which is what I was trying to get at--what encoding of a pixel
>>> is desired?
>>
>> I've been thinking about this and actually, in a byte for byte copy
>> the 'encoding' of a pixel is irrelevant.
>>
>> If I open a (for example) jpg image in a hex viewer(ghex) all I see is
>> a bunch of bytes. As far as ghex is concerned that's all it is.
>> The bunch of bytes is only an image if it is interpreted as an image by
>> software that knows how to interpret the data *as an image*.
>>
>> So, as far as reading the data goes, all we have is a stream of bytes.
>>
>> If we want to store these bytes in a matrix(for whatever reason) we may
>> have an immediate problem. It may be the case that the byte count is not
>> a 'perfect square', what this means is that there may eventually be a
>> number matrix cells that will not contain data that is relevant to the
>> byte stream we are reading.
>>
>> So, how do we determine where in the matrix our data ends and the
>> default values used to populate the arrays on creation begin?
>>
>> If we use byte[][] we have a problem.
>> All byte values from 0x00 - 0xFF *could* be valid data,
>> byte arrays have each cell initialized to 0 (0x00)
>>
>> Byte arrays however have each cell initialized to null.
>>
>> It will therefore be very easy to determine the end of data in a
>> Byte[][] matrix. In a byte[][] matrix we would have to add some
>> information somewhere outside of the matrix.
>>
>> This situation only really applies if we wish to store our bytes in a
>> matrix. Obviously this is *not* a problem if we store the bytes in a
>> single dimension array.
>>
>> So, I'm not so sure that the original advice was as bad as all that, it
>> depends on the end usage of the stored data.
>>
>> As ever I'd be interested in any comments.
>
> Java 2D arrays are not necessarily square, so the second dimension
> can be different for each element of the first dimension. So it
> is also an option to use that instead of Byte[] with null fill
> to end.

Now *that's* interesting.

I can't say I've done much with byte matrices or any other matrix for 
that matter, or come to that, arrays, I generally tend to use dynamic 
storage components, like LinkedList<> for example. this seems to compile.

byte[][] bytes = new byte[2][];
bytes[0] = new byte[10];
bytes[1] = new byte[7];

I didn't know you could do that.

Well there you are, If I had ignored this thread I wouldn't have learned 
that.

comp.lang.java.programmer, gotta love it.

lipska

-- 
Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer
and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun

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#24021

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2013-05-12 21:45 -0400
Message-ID<519045cb$0$32104$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#24007
On 5/11/2013 10:00 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
> On 11/05/13 13:50, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 5/11/2013 4:28 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>> On 08/05/13 19:54, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2013 12:40 PM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>>>> On 08/05/13 17:52, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/8/2013 1:30 AM, sout saret wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Community!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2
>>>>>>> dimensional array. I want to show format as below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What format is this two-dimensional array? Looking from your code,
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> appear to want it to be some sort of 256-byte pixel value, but are
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> desiring:
>>>>>> 1. 8-bit ARGB
>>>>>> 2. 5-6-5 RGB
>>>>>> 3. 8-bit grayscale
>>>>>> 4. 32-bit ARGB
>>>>>> 5. 24-bit RGB
>>>>>> 6. Binary version of any widely-used image format, including but not
>>>>>> limited to PNG, BMP, GIF, JPG, XBM, TIF, and ICO.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think he wants a byte for byte copy so the first byte gets copied
>>>>> into
>>>>> [0][0] the next into [1][0] the next [2][0] etc until [width-1][0]
>>>>> then start again at [0][1], [1][1], [2][1] etc etc
>>>>
>>>> A byte for byte copy of what? I'm guessing the answer is the "pixel
>>>> matrix", but that's underdefined since pixels can take on many
>>>> different
>>>> formats, which is what I was trying to get at--what encoding of a pixel
>>>> is desired?
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about this and actually, in a byte for byte copy
>>> the 'encoding' of a pixel is irrelevant.
>>>
>>> If I open a (for example) jpg image in a hex viewer(ghex) all I see is
>>> a bunch of bytes. As far as ghex is concerned that's all it is.
>>> The bunch of bytes is only an image if it is interpreted as an image by
>>> software that knows how to interpret the data *as an image*.
>>>
>>> So, as far as reading the data goes, all we have is a stream of bytes.
>>>
>>> If we want to store these bytes in a matrix(for whatever reason) we may
>>> have an immediate problem. It may be the case that the byte count is not
>>> a 'perfect square', what this means is that there may eventually be a
>>> number matrix cells that will not contain data that is relevant to the
>>> byte stream we are reading.
>>>
>>> So, how do we determine where in the matrix our data ends and the
>>> default values used to populate the arrays on creation begin?
>>>
>>> If we use byte[][] we have a problem.
>>> All byte values from 0x00 - 0xFF *could* be valid data,
>>> byte arrays have each cell initialized to 0 (0x00)
>>>
>>> Byte arrays however have each cell initialized to null.
>>>
>>> It will therefore be very easy to determine the end of data in a
>>> Byte[][] matrix. In a byte[][] matrix we would have to add some
>>> information somewhere outside of the matrix.
>>>
>>> This situation only really applies if we wish to store our bytes in a
>>> matrix. Obviously this is *not* a problem if we store the bytes in a
>>> single dimension array.
>>>
>>> So, I'm not so sure that the original advice was as bad as all that, it
>>> depends on the end usage of the stored data.
>>>
>>> As ever I'd be interested in any comments.
>>
>> Java 2D arrays are not necessarily square, so the second dimension
>> can be different for each element of the first dimension. So it
>> is also an option to use that instead of Byte[] with null fill
>> to end.
>
> Now *that's* interesting.
>
> I can't say I've done much with byte matrices or any other matrix for
> that matter, or come to that, arrays, I generally tend to use dynamic
> storage components, like LinkedList<> for example. this seems to compile.
>
> byte[][] bytes = new byte[2][];
> bytes[0] = new byte[10];
> bytes[1] = new byte[7];
>
> I didn't know you could do that.

Java only has this "array of array" or "jagged array".

The:

X[][] o = new X[m][n];

construct makes it looks different, but it is just syntactic sugar.

C# has both this type of array and a real 2D array (that is always
square).

Y[][] o = new Y[n][];
...

vs:

Y[,] o = new Y[n,m];

Arne

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#23950

FromManuel Dahmen <manuel.dahmen@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-08 15:38 -0700
Message-ID<9245574e-9fdb-444e-8d05-601f22397213@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#23918
Le mercredi 8 mai 2013 08:30:25 UTC+2, sout saret a écrit :
> Dear Community!
> 
> 
> 
> May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2 dimensional array. I want to show format as below:
> 
> 
> 
> {
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x1B,0xFB,0x12,0x0A,0x1B,0x0B,0x09,0x09,0x19,0x09,0x19,0x29,0x19,0xE9,0x00,0x20,0x00,0x60,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x6D,0xFD,0x48,0x05,0x6D,0xF5,0x25,0x14,0x25,0x15,0x25,0x15,0xFD,0x15,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0xC0,0x01,0x00,0x01,0xC0,0x00,0x00,0xBC,0x78,0x24,0x48,0xA4,0x48,0xA4,0x48,0xB4,0x48,0xB5,0x48,0xB6,0xC8,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 		{0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,},
> 
> 	};
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regard!
> 
> 
> 
> Saret Sout

You should have a look in the javadoc at the BufferedImage class.

Method getRGB(int x, int y)
or
getRed() getGreen() getBlue() getAlpha()

and then loop and output in hex format.

Seems trivial.

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#24011

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2013-05-11 13:33 -0700
Message-ID<vlato896o4kk1nk7iaosp5tpv7dpv8jcm8@4ax.com>
In reply to#23918
On Tue, 7 May 2013 23:30:25 -0700 (PDT), sout saret
<saretmis097@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2 dimensional array. I want to show format as below:

I think your problem may be that you don't realize that internally the
image will be a matrix of ints or shorts. The hexness comes when you
display it or write it to text file.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/hex.html
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Nothing is so good as it seems beforehand. 
 ~ George Eliot (born: 1819-11-22 died: 1880-12-22 at age: 61) (Mary Ann Evans)

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#24022

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2013-05-12 21:48 -0400
Message-ID<51904660$0$32104$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#24011
On 5/11/2013 4:33 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> On Tue, 7 May 2013 23:30:25 -0700 (PDT), sout saret
> <saretmis097@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
> said :
>
>> May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2 dimensional array. I want to show format as below:
>
> I think your problem may be that you don't realize that internally the
> image will be a matrix of ints or shorts. The hexness comes when you
> display it or write it to text file.
>
> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/hex.html

What does that have to do with the discussion??

Arne

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#24030

Frommarkspace <markspace@nospam.nospam>
Date2013-05-12 20:49 -0700
Message-ID<kmpnkf$1e7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#24022
On 5/12/2013 6:48 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 4:33 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 May 2013 23:30:25 -0700 (PDT), sout saret
>> <saretmis097@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
>> said :
>>
>>> May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2
>>> dimensional array. I want to show format as below:
>>
>> I think your problem may be that you don't realize that internally the
>> image will be a matrix of ints or shorts. The hexness comes when you
>> display it or write it to text file.
>>
>> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/hex.html
>
> What does that have to do with the discussion??


What discussion on cljp would be complete without random off-topic 
interjaculations from Roedy?

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#24044

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2013-05-13 19:08 -0400
Message-ID<51917270$0$32104$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#24030
On 5/12/2013 11:49 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 5/12/2013 6:48 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 5/11/2013 4:33 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 May 2013 23:30:25 -0700 (PDT), sout saret
>>> <saretmis097@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
>>> said :
>>>
>>>> May you help me how to write code in java to convert image to Hex 2
>>>> dimensional array. I want to show format as below:
>>>
>>> I think your problem may be that you don't realize that internally the
>>> image will be a matrix of ints or shorts. The hexness comes when you
>>> display it or write it to text file.
>>>
>>> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/hex.html
>>
>> What does that have to do with the discussion??
>
>
> What discussion on cljp would be complete without random off-topic
> interjaculations from Roedy?

I guess you are right ....

:-)

Arne

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#24067

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2013-05-15 03:45 -0700
Message-ID<4op6p8d9stsp57d99f4dsol83rn44ev9qs@4ax.com>
In reply to#24030
1On Sun, 12 May 2013 20:49:04 -0700, markspace
<markspace@nospam.nospam> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>
>What discussion on cljp would be complete without random off-topic 
>interjaculations from Roedy?

It may be off topic from what you have been saying, but it is
perfectly on topic looking at the original post.  Because of topic
drift I generally do not read threads before posting, just the
original.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Nothing is so good as it seems beforehand. 
 ~ George Eliot (born: 1819-11-22 died: 1880-12-22 at age: 61) (Mary Ann Evans)

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#24068

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2013-05-15 03:50 -0700
Message-ID<n0q6p8t2hnc6t78s336o8vk7vmfo37kedu@4ax.com>
In reply to#24030
On Sun, 12 May 2013 20:49:04 -0700, markspace
<markspace@nospam.nospam> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>
>What discussion on cljp would be complete without random off-topic 
>interjaculations from Roedy?

You are beginning to sound like Lew.  There are fewer and fewer people
participating simply because they don't want to deal with gratuitous
rudeness like that.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Nothing is so good as it seems beforehand. 
 ~ George Eliot (born: 1819-11-22 died: 1880-12-22 at age: 61) (Mary Ann Evans)

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