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  Upcoming deployment rule-set Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-26 17:26 +0800
    Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-26 17:40 +0800
      Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-26 07:56 -0400
        Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-27 06:57 +0800
          Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-26 19:49 -0400
            Eeyore lives! Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-27 18:54 +0800
              Re: Eeyore lives! Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-27 08:12 -0400
                Re: Eeyore lives! Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-27 20:49 +0800
                  Re: Eeyore lives! Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-28 12:38 -0700
                Re: Eeyore lives! Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-27 20:34 +0000
                  Re: Eeyore lives! Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-28 17:01 +0800
                    Re: Eeyore lives! lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-08-28 13:50 +0100
          Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-08-28 12:37 -0700
      Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-08-26 22:06 +1000
      Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-27 21:24 -0400
        Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-28 16:37 +0800
          Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-28 16:46 +0800
            Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-08-28 20:05 +0800
    Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2013-08-26 13:52 +0200
      Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-08-26 22:05 +1000
        Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2013-08-26 14:21 +0200
          Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-27 21:20 -0400
            Re: Upcoming deployment rule-set Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2013-08-28 09:00 +0200

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#25135 — Upcoming deployment rule-set

http://jdk7.java.net/PDF/DeploymentRuleSet-beta2.pdf

Look I have just read the above 6 times and still can't see the 
"Sandboxed = OK" rule.

How can us sane people turn off that bollocks HERE BE DRAGONS - JAVA 
APPLETS ARE SHIT message that was introduced last version?

Please tell me the name of this useless wanker that Larry has put in 
charge of Applets. You simply can't fuck-up this badly without true talent!

Cheers Richard Maher

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#25136

On 8/26/2013 5:26 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
> http://jdk7.java.net/PDF/DeploymentRuleSet-beta2.pdf
>
> Look I have just read the above 6 times and still can't see the
> "Sandboxed = OK" rule.
>
> How can us sane people turn off that bollocks HERE BE DRAGONS - JAVA
> APPLETS ARE SHIT message that was introduced last version?
>
> Please tell me the name of this useless wanker that Larry has put in
> charge of Applets. You simply can't fuck-up this badly without true talent!
>
> Cheers Richard Maher

Quote: - Unsigned and Self-Signed application security prompts no longer 
offer "Do not show this again"

Tell me this doesn't refer to Unsigned Sand-boxed Applets for fuck sake!!!

Arne, JNLP and WebStart are the cancer to Applets that DECforms was to 
FMS. You get a completely incompetent bunch of knob-jockeys and give 
them the budget of a successful merit-based product and then they drive 
it into the ground :-(

Please, please, please cut Applets out of the fold and carry on you 
"Oracle defines what RIA means" fantasy somewhere else!

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#25138

On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
> [...] bollocks [...] SHIT [...] useless wanker [...]
> fuck-up [...] fuck [...] knob-jockeys [...]

     Don't hold back, Dick.

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid

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#25143

On 8/26/2013 7:56 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
> On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> [...] bollocks [...] SHIT [...] useless wanker [...]
>> fuck-up [...] fuck [...] knob-jockeys [...]
>
>      Don't hold back, Dick.
>

I was about to claim I was quoted out of context but you seem to have 
paraphrased my feelings on the subject far more eloquently than I.

While my posts may not be up there with Oscar Wilde, I do claim to have 
captured the Java zeit-gheist perfectly. All these talentless, 
stary-eyed Java wannabes from places like c.l.j.p skipping off to 
JavaOne to get their jollies over lambdas :-(

Meanwhile Larry puts some arshloch in charge of destroying Applets and 
completely de-emphasising the sand-box advantage. Lambdas and their ilk 
are just beads and trinckets to keep you happy on the server-reservation 
while they steal your land and market-share from you. Google, Apple, and 
Microsoft are all pissing on you as you skip along.

What is wrong with you people? Has TV de-sensatized you to violence and 
injustice that you can no longer get angry at someone who wreaking havoc 
on your likelihoods?

Cheers Richard Maher

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#25144

On 8/26/2013 6:57 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
> On 8/26/2013 7:56 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
>> On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>> [...] bollocks [...] SHIT [...] useless wanker [...]
>>> fuck-up [...] fuck [...] knob-jockeys [...]
>>
>>      Don't hold back, Dick.
>
> I was about to claim I was quoted out of context but you seem to have
> paraphrased my feelings on the subject far more eloquently than I.

     Your eloquence serves as an example to all.  Too many, alas,
follow your sorry example.

> While my posts may not be up there with Oscar Wilde, I do claim to have
> captured the Java zeit-gheist perfectly. All these talentless,

     Zeitgeist.

> are just beads and trinckets to keep you happy on the server-reservation

     Trinkets.

> What is wrong with you people? Has TV de-sensatized you to violence and

     De-sensitized (hyphen optional).

> injustice that you can no longer get angry at someone who wreaking havoc
> on your likelihoods?

     "Likelihoods?"  Frankly, I wish posts like yours were in truth
less probable instead of being so oppressively common, also common.

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid

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#25147 — Eeyore lives!

On 8/27/2013 7:49 AM, Eric Sosman wrote:
8< Some lament, or ode to a softer gentler time.

Cheer up petal!

After you've finished correcting and critiquing my posts in c.l.j.p you 
can move on and voice your disdain to all those other unsuspecting plebs 
in the wide world of Google groups. Then just think of the havoc you can 
wreak in the twitter-verse? Just no end of fun for those with time on 
their hands.

But be careful not to bruise out there!

I could've told you Eric, this Internet was never meant for one as 
beautiful as you.

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#25148 — Re: Eeyore lives!

On 8/27/2013 6:54 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
> [...]
> After you've finished correcting and critiquing my posts [...]

     "Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell."
     -- Tom Lehrer

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid

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#25150 — Re: Eeyore lives!

On 8/27/2013 8:12 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
> On 8/27/2013 6:54 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> [...]
>> After you've finished correcting and critiquing my posts [...]
>
>      "Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell."
>      -- Tom Lehrer
>

"yabba dabba doo"
-- Fred Flintstone

So fucking what? God knows you plagiarize most of what you do to get 
through life you unoriginal pretentious cock but this is the last time 
you'll troll under my bridge so fuck off!

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#25164 — Re: Eeyore lives!

Richard Maher wrote:
> So fucking what? God knows you plagiarize most of what you do to get 
> through life you unoriginal pretentious cock but this is the last time 
> you'll troll under my bridge so fuck off!

You kiss your mother with that mouth, pendejo?

Or does she charge extra for that?

-- 
Lew

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#25152 — Re: Eeyore lives!

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:12:07 -0400, Eric Sosman wrote:

> On 8/27/2013 6:54 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> [...]
>> After you've finished correcting and critiquing my posts [...]
> 
>      "Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell."
>      -- Tom Lehrer

..and also the "Romans go home" scene in "The Life of Brian".


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#25159 — Re: Eeyore lives!

On 8/28/2013 4:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:12:07 -0400, Eric Sosman wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2013 6:54 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> After you've finished correcting and critiquing my posts [...]
>>
>>       "Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell."
>>       -- Tom Lehrer
>
> ..and also the "Romans go home" scene in "The Life of Brian".
>
>

..and let's not forget the old classic: -
Q: What's the difference between Essex Man and Essex Woman?
A: Your Mother's got a higher sperm count

..or

Q: Why does an Essex woman wear knickers?
A: So your Mother's ankles are warm

..are we having fun yet???

Why don't you do us all a favor an wander into Romford and get a glass 
stuck in your face you white-sock wearing, Ford Clitoris driving wide-boy.

Cheers Richard Maher

PS. Is Eric Sosnan really that fat bag of crap on LinkedIn? He should 
spend more time on diabetes-prevention than giving me the shits!

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#25161 — Re: Eeyore lives!

On 28/08/13 10:01, Richard Maher wrote:
> On 8/28/2013 4:34 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:12:07 -0400, Eric Sosman wrote:

<snip>

> Why don't you do us all a favor an wander into Romford and get a glass
> stuck in your face you white-sock wearing, Ford Clitoris driving wide-boy.
>
> Cheers Richard Maher
>
> PS. Is Eric Sosnan really that fat bag of crap on LinkedIn? He should
> spend more time on diabetes-prevention than giving me the shits!

Yea, I reckon so

http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericsosman

He's a fucking smartarse troll in c.l.c as well.

-- 
Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer
and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun
GNU/Linux user #560883 - http://www.linuxcounter.net

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#25163

Richard Maher wrote:
> I was about to claim I was quoted out of context but you seem to have 
> paraphrased my feelings on the subject far more eloquently than I.
> 
> While my posts may not be up there with Oscar Wilde, I do claim to have 

Not hardly.

> captured the Java zeit-gheist perfectly. All these talentless, 

"zeitgeist"

> stary-eyed Java wannabes from places like c.l.j.p skipping off to 

"starry-eyed" ... "c.l.j.p." or simply "cljp"

> JavaOne to get their jollies over lambdas :-(

Whatever.

> Meanwhile Larry puts some arshloch in charge of destroying Applets and 
> completely de-emphasising the sand-box advantage. Lambdas and their ilk 

One will grant you UK origin here.

> are just beads and trinckets to keep you happy on the server-reservation 

"trinkets"

> while they steal your land and market-share from you. Google, Apple, and 

Bullshit.

> Microsoft are all pissing on you as you skip along.

More bullshit.

> What is wrong with you people? 

Nothing.

> Has TV de-sensatized you to violence and 

"desensitized"

No violence here, except your verbal violence.

> injustice that you can no longer get angry at someone who wreaking havoc 

"... who is wreaking ..." - and that would be you.

> on your likelihoods?

How, via a probability distortion field?

I realize Eric made these points as well, but they bear repeating. Next time, O thou clearly 
expert on wankers, stop, breathe and think before posting. In, out, in, out - in with the good 
air, out with the bad - there, now don't you feel better?

-- 
Lew

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#25140

"Richard Maher"  wrote in message news:kvf7q1$ek1$1@speranza.aioe.org...

> Quote: - Unsigned and Self-Signed application security prompts no longer 
> offer "Do not show this again"
>
> Tell me this doesn't refer to Unsigned Sand-boxed Applets for fuck sake!!!

Oracle, like everyone else, is telling you DON'T USE APPLETS!

--
And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
_________________________________________________
Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com
[Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me] 

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#25155

On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
> Quote: - Unsigned and Self-Signed application security prompts no longer
> offer "Do not show this again"
>
> Tell me this doesn't refer to Unsigned Sand-boxed Applets for fuck sake!!!

It mention unsigned so ....

> Arne, JNLP and WebStart are the cancer to Applets that DECforms was to
> FMS.

I don't see any change in functionality by launching applets via JNLP.

Which of course also means that it does not solve your problem.

Arne

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#25157

On 8/28/2013 9:24 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> Quote: - Unsigned and Self-Signed application security prompts no longer
>> offer "Do not show this again"
>>
>> Tell me this doesn't refer to Unsigned Sand-boxed Applets for fuck
>> sake!!!
>
> It mention unsigned so ....
>
>> Arne, JNLP and WebStart are the cancer to Applets that DECforms was to
>> FMS.
>
> I don't see any change in functionality by launching applets via JNLP.
>

Then I suggested perusing 
http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.OnlyANumptyCouldWriteThisShitJS on 
rainy day and look at the entire browsers, version, and features that it 
lays waste to.

The most browser sniffing/eight-balling anyone has seen in the last 10 
years :-(

> Which of course also means that it does not solve your problem.
>
> Arne
>

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#25158

On 8/28/2013 4:37 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
> On 8/28/2013 9:24 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>> Quote: - Unsigned and Self-Signed application security prompts no longer
>>> offer "Do not show this again"
>>>
>>> Tell me this doesn't refer to Unsigned Sand-boxed Applets for fuck
>>> sake!!!
>>
>> It mention unsigned so ....
>>
>>> Arne, JNLP and WebStart are the cancer to Applets that DECforms was to
>>> FMS.
>>
>> I don't see any change in functionality by launching applets via JNLP.
>>
>
> Then I suggested perusing
> http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.OnlyANumptyCouldWriteThisShitJS on
> rainy day and look at the entire browsers, version, and features that it
> lays waste to.
>
> The most browser sniffing/eight-balling anyone has seen in the last 10
> years :-(
>
>> Which of course also means that it does not solve your problem.
>>
>> Arne
>>
>

Sorry: -

http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt

And did I leave the obvious drawbacks of document.write and the stinking 
peasants in c.l.j.p who can't comprehend the need for run-time discovery 
and injection of Applets.

You all make me sick!

Not you Arne :-)

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#25160

On 8/28/2013 4:46 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
> On 8/28/2013 4:37 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> On 8/28/2013 9:24 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 8/26/2013 5:40 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>>> Quote: - Unsigned and Self-Signed application security prompts no
>>>> longer
>>>> offer "Do not show this again"
>>>>
>>>> Tell me this doesn't refer to Unsigned Sand-boxed Applets for fuck
>>>> sake!!!
>>>
>>> It mention unsigned so ....
>>>
>>>> Arne, JNLP and WebStart are the cancer to Applets that DECforms was to
>>>> FMS.
>>>
>>> I don't see any change in functionality by launching applets via JNLP.
>>>
>>
>> Then I suggested perusing
>> http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.OnlyANumptyCouldWriteThisShitJS on
>> rainy day and look at the entire browsers, version, and features that it
>> lays waste to.
>>
>> The most browser sniffing/eight-balling anyone has seen in the last 10
>> years :-(
>>
>>> Which of course also means that it does not solve your problem.
>>>
>>> Arne
>>>
>>
>
> Sorry: -
>
> http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt
>
> And did I leave the obvious drawbacks of document.write and the stinking
> peasants in c.l.j.p who can't comprehend the need for run-time discovery
> and injection of Applets.
>
> You all make me sick!
>
> Not you Arne :-)

Oh now I remember this is A grade Javscript shit courtesy of Oracle :-(

      //support native DT plugin?
     allowPlugin: function() {
         this.getBrowser();

         // Safari and Opera browsers find the plugin but it
         // doesn't work, so until we can get it to work - don't use it.
         var ret = ('Safari' != this.browserName2 &&
             'Opera' != this.browserName2);

         return ret;
     },

AND

     getBrowser: function() {

         if (this.browserName == null) {
             var browser = navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();

             log('[getBrowser()] navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() -> ' 
+ browser);


             // order is important here.  Safari userAgent contains mozilla,
             // and Chrome userAgent contains both mozilla and safari.
             if ((browser.indexOf('msie') != -1) && 
(browser.indexOf('opera') == -1)) {
                 this.browserName = 'MSIE';
                 this.browserName2 = 'MSIE';
             } else if (browser.indexOf('iphone') != -1) {
                 // this included both iPhone and iPad
                 this.browserName = 'Netscape Family';
                 this.browserName2 = 'iPhone';
             } else if ((browser.indexOf('firefox') != -1) && 
(browser.indexOf('opera') == -1)) {
                 this.browserName = 'Netscape Family';
                 this.browserName2 = 'Firefox';
             } else if (browser.indexOf('chrome') != -1) {
                 this.browserName = 'Netscape Family';
                 this.browserName2 = 'Chrome';
             } else if (browser.indexOf('safari') != -1) {
                 this.browserName = 'Netscape Family';
                 this.browserName2 = 'Safari';
             } else if ((browser.indexOf('mozilla') != -1) && 
(browser.indexOf('opera') == -1)) {
                 this.browserName = 'Netscape Family';
                 this.browserName2 = 'Other';
             } else if (browser.indexOf('opera') != -1) {
                 this.browserName = 'Netscape Family';
                 this.browserName2 = 'Opera';
             } else {
                 this.browserName = '?';
                 this.browserName2 = 'unknown';
             }

             log('[getBrowser()] Detected browser name:'+ this.browserName +
                        ', ' + this.browserName2);
         }
         return this.browserName;
     },


Yeah skip off to JavaOne and get your jollies on lambdas while your 
company pays for your legacy skills.


But where oh where is that street fighting Jew that landed on Ellis 
island and laid waste to DEC and HP? For fuck sake Larry please throw us 
a bone???

Cheers Richard Maher

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#25137

On 08/26/2013 11:26 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
> http://jdk7.java.net/PDF/DeploymentRuleSet-beta2.pdf
>
> Look I have just read the above 6 times and still can't see the
> "Sandboxed = OK" rule.
>
> How can us sane people turn off that bollocks HERE BE DRAGONS - JAVA
> APPLETS ARE SHIT message that was introduced last version?
>
> Please tell me the name of this useless wanker that Larry has put in
> charge of Applets. You simply can't fuck-up this badly without true talent!
>
> Cheers Richard Maher

Stop using the crap formerly known as Applets and you will be fine.

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#25139

"Silvio"  wrote in message news:521b417b$0$15963$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... 

> Stop using the crap formerly known as Applets and you will be fine.

Hey, that crap is still called Applets!

--
And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
_________________________________________________
Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com
[Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me]

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