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Managed-Code Bloat

Started byLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>
First post2011-06-06 18:47 +1200
Last post2011-06-07 15:44 +1200
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  Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-06 18:47 +1200
    Re: Managed-Code Bloat Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-06-06 06:40 -0300
      Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-06 23:04 +1200
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-06-06 17:41 -0300
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 11:13 +1200
            Re: Managed-Code Bloat Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-06-07 07:08 -0300
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Silvio <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-06-07 09:40 +0200
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-06-07 06:08 -0700
    Re: Managed-Code Bloat Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-06-06 11:35 -0400
      Re: Managed-Code Bloat Alessio Stalla <alessiostalla@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 10:47 -0700
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-06-06 18:21 +0000
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-06-08 11:48 -0400
            Re: Managed-Code Bloat Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-06-08 18:06 +0000
              Re: Managed-Code Bloat Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-06-11 14:00 -0400
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 10:18 +1200
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-06-08 11:59 -0400
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-06-08 11:22 -0400
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2011-06-08 21:45 +0100
      Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 10:17 +1200
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-06-06 16:37 -0700
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 12:06 +1200
            Re: Managed-Code Bloat Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-06-06 17:44 -0700
              Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 13:38 +1200
                Re: Managed-Code Bloat Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-06-06 20:13 -0700
                  Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 15:41 +1200
                    Re: Managed-Code Bloat Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-06-06 20:47 -0700
                      Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 01:06 -0700
                        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 23:53 +1200
                          Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 16:04 -0700
                          Re: Managed-Code Bloat Michael Wojcik <mwojcik@newsguy.com> - 2011-06-08 13:04 -0400
                        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Michal Kleczek <kleku75@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 09:23 +0200
                          Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-08 03:54 -0700
                    Re: Managed-Code Bloat bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> - 2011-06-07 10:10 +0100
                  Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 00:37 -0700
        Re: Managed-Code Bloat Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-06-07 07:31 -0300
          Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 16:18 -0700
            Re: Managed-Code Bloat Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-06-07 20:50 -0300
            Re: Managed-Code Bloat Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-06-08 07:53 -0700
              Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-08 11:23 -0700
      Re: Managed-Code Bloat BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-06 16:54 -0700
    Re: Managed-Code Bloat Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-06-06 19:24 -0700
      Re: Managed-Code Bloat Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-06-07 15:44 +1200

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#5048

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2011-06-06 19:24 -0700
Message-ID<kp2ru6dkdutgb6pbbj0reafl0l7mspq2n5@4ax.com>
In reply to#5001
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:47:30 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>Came across this item
><http://www.itwriting.com/blog/3385-lessons-from-evernotes-flight-from-net.html>
>about how Evernote for Windows abandoned WPF and Dotnet when moving from

I remember how DOS->Windows evolved recapitulating the evolution of
mainframes, but requiring hundreds of times the amount of RAM for the
same functionality. (we still don't have sequential lookahead double
buffering we had back in the 16K machine days.)

I think we are doing another round of this recapitulation with
cellphones and PDAs.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
How long did it take after the car was invented before owners understood 
cars would not work unless you regularly changed the oil and the tires?
We have gone 33 years and still it is rare to uncover a user who 
understands computers don't work without regular backups.

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#5052

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>
Date2011-06-07 15:44 +1200
Message-ID<isk6qn$7nj$3@lust.ihug.co.nz>
In reply to#5048
In message <kp2ru6dkdutgb6pbbj0reafl0l7mspq2n5@4ax.com>, Roedy Green wrote:

> I remember how DOS->Windows evolved recapitulating the evolution of
> mainframes, but requiring hundreds of times the amount of RAM for the
> same functionality. (we still don't have sequential lookahead double
> buffering we had back in the 16K machine days.)

Maybe because there is no benefit to it on current platforms.

> I think we are doing another round of this recapitulation with
> cellphones and PDAs.

“PDAs”? Now there’s a term from the 1990s. :)

Cellphones don’t need to “recapitulate” anything, because they are mostly 
built on adaptations of kernels that have already been used on PCs 
(certainly true of Android and the Apple products).

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