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| Started by | Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> |
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| First post | 2017-11-28 15:40 +0100 |
| Last post | 2017-11-30 18:38 +0100 |
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How to identify outliers Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> - 2017-11-28 15:40 +0100
Re: How to identify outliers Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2017-11-28 10:13 -0500
Re: How to identify outliers Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> - 2017-11-28 17:33 +0100
Re: How to identify outliers Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-11-28 07:28 -0800
Re: How to identify outliers Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> - 2017-11-28 17:35 +0100
Re: How to identify outliers Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-11-30 18:38 +0100
| From | Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> |
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| Date | 2017-11-28 15:40 +0100 |
| Subject | How to identify outliers |
| Message-ID | <ovjsgk$91k$1@dont-email.me> |
Hi folks, I got a statistical problem, and due to a youth math trauma, I'd like a bit of help to solve it. I have a data series. Integer values, but that should be beside the point. I want to identify and eliminate "outliers" from this series. "Outliers" being values that are "too big" or "too small", in short, that are not congruent with the rest of the series. I am well aware that saying "outlier" begs the question, hence the quotes, but I can fine-tune the degree of outlying for my purposes later on. For the time being, I wonder if someone could outline some basic approaches I could take in the matter. -- DF.
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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-11-28 10:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ovjuf5$mr8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37699 |
On 11/28/2017 9:40 AM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I got a statistical problem, and due to a youth math trauma, I'd like a
> bit of help to solve it.
>
> I have a data series. Integer values, but that should be beside the
> point. I want to identify and eliminate "outliers" from this series.
> "Outliers" being values that are "too big" or "too small", in short,
> that are not congruent with the rest of the series. I am well aware that
> saying "outlier" begs the question, hence the quotes, but I can
> fine-tune the degree of outlying for my purposes later on. For the time
> being, I wonder if someone could outline some basic approaches I could
> take in the matter.
http://newton.newhaven.edu/sross/piercescriterion.pdf
If the table at the end of this (short) paper isn't suited to
your needs, I can also offer source code (in C) to adapted from
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Kypai3jqss8/discussion
to calculate the underlying distribution. Drop me a line if you'd
like it.
--
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
Eleven hundred forty-nine days to go.
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| From | Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> |
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| Date | 2017-11-28 17:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ovk34t$rob$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37700 |
On 2017-11-28 16:13, Eric Sosman wrote: > On 11/28/2017 9:40 AM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I got a statistical problem, and due to a youth math trauma, I'd like a >> bit of help to solve it. >> >> I have a data series. Integer values, but that should be beside the >> point. I want to identify and eliminate "outliers" from this series. >> "Outliers" being values that are "too big" or "too small", in short, >> that are not congruent with the rest of the series. I am well aware that >> saying "outlier" begs the question, hence the quotes, but I can >> fine-tune the degree of outlying for my purposes later on. For the time >> being, I wonder if someone could outline some basic approaches I could >> take in the matter. > > > http://newton.newhaven.edu/sross/piercescriterion.pdf > > If the table at the end of this (short) paper isn't suited to > your needs, I can also offer source code (in C) to adapted from > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Kypai3jqss8/discussion > to calculate the underlying distribution. Drop me a line if you'd > like it. > Spiffy. Exactly what I was looking for. I'll go over it and get back to you if needed and you don't mind. Thanks a ton. -- DF.
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| From | Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-28 07:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b91aa743-55b5-4148-82b8-c9b8767db8fe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37699 |
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 9:40:41 AM UTC-5, Daniele Futtorovic wrote: > Hi folks, > > I got a statistical problem, and due to a youth math trauma, I'd like a > bit of help to solve it. > > I have a data series. Integer values, but that should be beside the > point. I want to identify and eliminate "outliers" from this series. > "Outliers" being values that are "too big" or "too small", in short, > that are not congruent with the rest of the series. I am well aware that > saying "outlier" begs the question, hence the quotes, but I can > fine-tune the degree of outlying for my purposes later on. For the time > being, I wonder if someone could outline some basic approaches I could > take in the matter. > > -- > DF. Were you looking for help figuring out what the outliers should be, or for Java code to remove values from a list which exceed a minimum and maximum?
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| From | Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> |
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| Date | 2017-11-28 17:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ovk37v$rob$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37701 |
On 2017-11-28 16:28, Eric Douglas wrote: > On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 9:40:41 AM UTC-5, Daniele Futtorovic wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I got a statistical problem, and due to a youth math trauma, I'd like a >> bit of help to solve it. >> >> I have a data series. Integer values, but that should be beside the >> point. I want to identify and eliminate "outliers" from this series. >> "Outliers" being values that are "too big" or "too small", in short, >> that are not congruent with the rest of the series. I am well aware that >> saying "outlier" begs the question, hence the quotes, but I can >> fine-tune the degree of outlying for my purposes later on. For the time >> being, I wonder if someone could outline some basic approaches I could >> take in the matter. > > Were you looking for help figuring out what the outliers should be, or for Java code to remove values from a list which exceed a minimum and maximum? :-) No, I was looking for the math. Code is (comparatively) easy. -- DF.
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| From | Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-30 18:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <f8atvrFbc6nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37699 |
On 28.11.2017 15:40, Daniele Futtorovic wrote: > I got a statistical problem, and due to a youth math trauma, I'd like a > bit of help to solve it. :-) > I have a data series. Integer values, but that should be beside the > point. I want to identify and eliminate "outliers" from this series. > "Outliers" being values that are "too big" or "too small", in short, > that are not congruent with the rest of the series. I am well aware that > saying "outlier" begs the question, hence the quotes, but I can > fine-tune the degree of outlying for my purposes later on. For the time > being, I wonder if someone could outline some basic approaches I could > take in the matter. Funny: just today I ran across https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/7gkry0/statistically_rigorous_java_performance_evaluation/ and eventually found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_mean which is a fairly simple and straightforward method. Depending on what you want to do you could also work with median or percentiles which are usually less affected by outliers than the median. Kind regards robert -- remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/
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