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| Started by | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| First post | 2014-12-17 19:37 +0000 |
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Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-12-17 19:37 +0000
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-12-18 15:21 +0100
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-12-18 16:32 +0000
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-12-19 12:57 +0100
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-12-19 19:05 +0000
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-12-22 11:28 +0100
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-12-22 11:36 +0100
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2014-12-21 00:19 +0200
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-12-22 11:30 +0100
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-12-18 13:45 -0800
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-12-19 08:27 +0000
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-12-19 15:53 +0100
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-12-19 19:08 +0000
Re: Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-12-19 22:28 +0100
| From | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-17 19:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Tomcat ssl certificates, any experience? |
| Message-ID | <UsWdnWUmZ_EYRgzJnZ2dnUVZ8judnZ2d@bt.com> |
Hello all I don't know if anyone is still talking to me but what the heck, I'll give it a go :-) Tomcat 7 Java 7 Linux (various but CentOS server) I'm trying to convert my various commercial sites to be *all https* as the great demon Google is prioritizing sites that default to https in it's search results apparently. I'm in the UK Has anyone had any experience with a UK certification authority that has decent customer support and more importantly perhaps has anyone actually purchased an SSL certificate from a UK certification authority and installed it successfully in a standalone Tomcat server instance? TIA Lipska -- lipska the kat - treacherous feline. Proudly nominated for IPOTY 2014 - LIGAF ================================================== Any GNU/Linux distribution that does not come with the set of tools required to build its open source kernel is incomplete. This is an opinion. ================================================== GNU/Linux user #560883 - linuxcounter.net
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-18 15:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5492e2de$0$2838$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #30578 |
Never bought any outside the Netherlands but the root CA was mostly RapidSSL/GeoTrust. Also hardly use them in any other way than with a Jetty container. But Jetty uses a standard Java keystore file and I presume Tomcat could handle such a beast. Using standard JDK keytool for creating the keystore/private key, setting up a CSR and subsequently putting the certificate inside the keystore is pretty straightforward and howto's can be googled for easily. Why do you want a UK CA? And what do you expect from customer support? My supplier here in the Netherlands has no idea whatsoever about how to use a certificate with Java. They may know a lot about using it with IIS or even Apache but I do neither. Have you considered setting up a simple reverse proxy in front of your web server that handles the SSL part? It will have the additional advantage of giving you some load distribution options. NGINX would do fine and is a breeze to setup, including the SSL part. Cheers, Silvio On 12/17/2014 08:37 PM, lipska the kat wrote: > Hello all > > I don't know if anyone is still talking to me but what the heck, I'll > give it a go :-) > > Tomcat 7 > Java 7 > Linux (various but CentOS server) > > I'm trying to convert my various commercial sites to be *all https* as > the great demon Google is prioritizing sites that default to https in > it's search results apparently. > > I'm in the UK > > Has anyone had any experience with a UK certification authority that has > decent customer support and more importantly perhaps has anyone actually > purchased an SSL certificate from a UK certification authority and > installed it successfully in a standalone Tomcat server instance? > > TIA > Lipska > >
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| From | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-18 16:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Rsudnc_L87stnA7JnZ2dnUVZ7qSdnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #30580 |
On 18/12/14 14:21, Silvio wrote: > Never bought any outside the Netherlands but the root CA was mostly > RapidSSL/GeoTrust. Also hardly use them in any other way than with a > Jetty container. But Jetty uses a standard Java keystore file and I > presume Tomcat could handle such a beast. Using standard JDK keytool for > creating the keystore/private key, setting up a CSR and subsequently > putting the certificate inside the keystore is pretty straightforward > and howto's can be googled for easily. > > Why do you want a UK CA? It just helps to have someone to talk to when things go wrong but I think I've figured the geeky stuff out now. I'm using keytool to generate a keystore and a CSR. I have the redirect to https sorted as well (actually a simple security-constraint in web.xml does the job). I'm not a sysadmin really I just do what I have to to keep things running and I know Tomcat well as I have been using it for years. Better stick to what you know I guess. I focus my time and effort on design and development, I'm only a one man band these days and do everything myself, application and database design and development, server maintenance, security, photography, product sourcing etc etc. I don't use any third party stuff like shopping carts or whatever, I do it all myself and any time I can save on stuff like this is good for my sanity. Anyway, there seems to be no way to avoid paying well over UKP100.00 per year for a certificate because of a decree from bloody Google that 'it shall be so' Ho Hum <snip> -- lipska the kat - treacherous feline. Proudly nominated for IPOTY 2014 - LIGAF ================================================== Any GNU/Linux distribution that does not come with the set of tools required to build its open source kernel is incomplete. This is an opinion. ================================================== GNU/Linux user #560883 - linuxcounter.net
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 12:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <549412b3$0$2837$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #30585 |
A bit on the expensive side. I pay about 30 euros for a plain certificate. Wildcard certificates covering any subdomain cost about 100 euros. That is for domain-validation only so I will not be playing bank any-time soon. I do all my stuff myself as well, be it that we are with four guys. The geeky stuff regarding keytool is known best among Java developers. You can always come here for assistance. Cheers, Silvio On 12/18/2014 05:32 PM, lipska the kat wrote: > On 18/12/14 14:21, Silvio wrote: >> Never bought any outside the Netherlands but the root CA was mostly >> RapidSSL/GeoTrust. Also hardly use them in any other way than with a >> Jetty container. But Jetty uses a standard Java keystore file and I >> presume Tomcat could handle such a beast. Using standard JDK keytool for >> creating the keystore/private key, setting up a CSR and subsequently >> putting the certificate inside the keystore is pretty straightforward >> and howto's can be googled for easily. >> >> Why do you want a UK CA? > > It just helps to have someone to talk to when things go wrong but I > think I've figured the geeky stuff out now. I'm using keytool to > generate a keystore and a CSR. I have the redirect to https sorted as > well (actually a simple security-constraint in web.xml does the job). > I'm not a sysadmin really I just do what I have to to keep things > running and I know Tomcat well as I have been using it for years. Better > stick to what you know I guess. I focus my time and effort on design and > development, I'm only a one man band these days and do everything > myself, application and database design and development, server > maintenance, security, photography, product sourcing etc etc. I don't > use any third party stuff like shopping carts or whatever, I do it all > myself and any time I can save on stuff like this is good for my sanity. > > Anyway, there seems to be no way to avoid paying well over UKP100.00 per > year for a certificate because of a decree from bloody Google that 'it > shall be so' > > Ho Hum > > <snip> >
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| From | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 19:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <-a-dnSg0ivyW6gnJnZ2dnUVZ8lqdnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #30593 |
On 19/12/14 11:57, Silvio wrote: > A bit on the expensive side. I pay about 30 euros for a plain > certificate. Wildcard certificates covering any subdomain cost about 100 > euros. That is for domain-validation only so I will not be playing bank > any-time soon. > > I do all my stuff myself as well, be it that we are with four guys. The > geeky stuff regarding keytool is known best among Java developers. You > can always come here for assistance. > > Cheers, > > Silvio Good to know, thanks, who is your CA (provider) -- lipska the kat - treacherous feline. Proudly nominated for IPOTY 2014 - LIGAF ================================================== Any GNU/Linux distribution that does not come with the set of tools required to build its open source kernel is incomplete. This is an opinion. ================================================== GNU/Linux user #560883 - linuxcounter.net
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-22 11:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5497f247$0$2832$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #30598 |
On 12/19/2014 08:05 PM, lipska the kat wrote: > On 19/12/14 11:57, Silvio wrote: >> A bit on the expensive side. I pay about 30 euros for a plain >> certificate. Wildcard certificates covering any subdomain cost about 100 >> euros. That is for domain-validation only so I will not be playing bank >> any-time soon. >> >> I do all my stuff myself as well, be it that we are with four guys. The >> geeky stuff regarding keytool is known best among Java developers. You >> can always come here for assistance. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Silvio > > Good to know, thanks, who is your CA (provider) > > > > GeoTrust. I use the RapidSSL certificate line, they may have some additional options.
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-22 11:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5497f419$0$2917$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #30608 |
On 12/22/2014 11:28 AM, Silvio wrote: > On 12/19/2014 08:05 PM, lipska the kat wrote: >> On 19/12/14 11:57, Silvio wrote: >>> A bit on the expensive side. I pay about 30 euros for a plain >>> certificate. Wildcard certificates covering any subdomain cost about 100 >>> euros. That is for domain-validation only so I will not be playing bank >>> any-time soon. >>> >>> I do all my stuff myself as well, be it that we are with four guys. The >>> geeky stuff regarding keytool is known best among Java developers. You >>> can always come here for assistance. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Silvio >> >> Good to know, thanks, who is your CA (provider) >> >> >> >> > > GeoTrust. I use the RapidSSL certificate line, they may have some > additional options. Bought a wildcard certificate for one year last Friday. It cost me 95 euros.
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| From | Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> |
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| Date | 2014-12-21 00:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m89hmb-uqd.ln1@tempest.fredriksson.dy.fi> |
| In reply to | #30580 |
On 18.12.2014 16:21, Silvio wrote: > Have you considered setting up a simple reverse proxy in front of your > web server that handles the SSL part? It will have the additional > advantage of giving you some load distribution options. NGINX would do > fine and is a breeze to setup, including the SSL part. That works fine, or Pound, which is a dedicated reverse proxy and application firewall. I have implemented SSL on Java servers using Pound, and my colleague has done it using nginx. Both work fine.
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| From | Silvio <silvio@internet.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-22 11:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5497f2e3$0$2832$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #30603 |
On 12/20/2014 11:19 PM, Donkey Hottie wrote: > On 18.12.2014 16:21, Silvio wrote: >> Have you considered setting up a simple reverse proxy in front of your >> web server that handles the SSL part? It will have the additional >> advantage of giving you some load distribution options. NGINX would do >> fine and is a breeze to setup, including the SSL part. > > That works fine, or Pound, which is a dedicated reverse proxy and > application firewall. I have implemented SSL on Java servers using > Pound, and my colleague has done it using nginx. Both work fine. > > Yes, Pound works fine as well, I have used that for a couple of years somewhere around 2007. Unfortunately we had some load distribution/balancing requirements Pound could not handle so I ended up doing a reverse proxy in Java. That has worked extremely well for us since then.
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| From | Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-12-18 13:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <rli69a5jsqhpcfovgckfc8tpr28t34ub97@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #30578 |
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:37:40 +0000, lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Has anyone had any experience with a UK certification authority that has >decent customer support and more importantly perhaps has anyone actually >purchased an SSL certificate from a UK certification authority and >installed it successfully in a standalone Tomcat server instance? See http://mindprod.com/certificatevendors.html It might help you find one to suit your needs. You could then ask about a specific candidate. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com Software is a gas; it expands to fill its container. ~ Nathan Myhrvold (born: 1959-08-03 age: 55) Nathan’s First Law
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| From | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 08:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Au2dnSymlK0UfA7JnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #30590 |
On 18/12/14 21:45, Roedy Green wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:37:40 +0000, lipska the kat > <lipskathekat@example.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone > who said : > >> Has anyone had any experience with a UK certification authority that has >> decent customer support and more importantly perhaps has anyone actually >> purchased an SSL certificate from a UK certification authority and >> installed it successfully in a standalone Tomcat server instance? > > See http://mindprod.com/certificatevendors.html > > It might help you find one to suit your needs. You could then ask > about a specific candidate. Would be useful if I could find it! Not Found The requested URL /certificatevendors.html was not found on this server. -- lipska the kat - treacherous feline. Proudly nominated for IPOTY 2014 - LIGAF ================================================== Any GNU/Linux distribution that does not come with the set of tools required to build its open source kernel is incomplete. This is an opinion. ================================================== GNU/Linux user #560883 - linuxcounter.net
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| From | Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 15:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cp0mfa1vp1m1.15gjcgcuvpi20$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #30592 |
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:27:53 +0000, lipska the kat wrote: > On 18/12/14 21:45, Roedy Green wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:37:40 +0000, lipska the kat >> <lipskathekat@example.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone >> who said : >>> Has anyone had any experience with a UK certification authority that has >>> decent customer support and more importantly perhaps has anyone actually >>> purchased an SSL certificate from a UK certification authority and >>> installed it successfully in a standalone Tomcat server instance? >> See http://mindprod.com/certificatevendors.html >> It might help you find one to suit your needs. You could then ask >> about a specific candidate. > Would be useful if I could find it! > Not Found > The requested URL /certificatevendors.html was not found on this server. Try <http://mindprod.com/jgloss/certificatevendors.html> Liebe Gruesse, Joerg -- Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider ungelesen.
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| From | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 19:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <-a-dnSs0ivw_6gnJnZ2dnUVZ8loAAAAA@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #30596 |
On 19/12/14 14:53, Joerg Meier wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:27:53 +0000, lipska the kat wrote: > >> On 18/12/14 21:45, Roedy Green wrote: >>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:37:40 +0000, lipska the kat >>> <lipskathekat@example.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone >>> who said : >>>> Has anyone had any experience with a UK certification authority that has >>>> decent customer support and more importantly perhaps has anyone actually >>>> purchased an SSL certificate from a UK certification authority and >>>> installed it successfully in a standalone Tomcat server instance? >>> See http://mindprod.com/certificatevendors.html > >>> It might help you find one to suit your needs. You could then ask >>> about a specific candidate. >> Would be useful if I could find it! > >> Not Found > >> The requested URL /certificatevendors.html was not found on this server. > > Try > > <http://mindprod.com/jgloss/certificatevendors.html> > > Liebe Gruesse, > Joerg That's the one, cheers Joerg. Any idea why the prices are blocked out? -- lipska the kat - treacherous feline. Proudly nominated for IPOTY 2014 - LIGAF ================================================== Any GNU/Linux distribution that does not come with the set of tools required to build its open source kernel is incomplete. This is an opinion. ================================================== GNU/Linux user #560883 - linuxcounter.net
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| From | Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2014-12-19 22:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <61phb5k3kcl8.12j3rn0zy7wlw$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #30599 |
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:08:17 +0000, lipska the kat wrote: > On 19/12/14 14:53, Joerg Meier wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:27:53 +0000, lipska the kat wrote: >>> Would be useful if I could find it! >>> Not Found >> Try >> <http://mindprod.com/jgloss/certificatevendors.html> > That's the one, cheers Joerg. > Any idea why the prices are blocked out? I'm not sure what you mean. I see prices for many of the entries. But considering many say they were last updated in 2007 or 2009, I wouldn't pay much attention to the prices anyways. Liebe Gruesse, Joerg -- Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider ungelesen.
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