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  Re: Java Conference 2011 (Oct 15th in Hyderabad) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-23 17:16 -0700
    Re: Java Conference 2011 (Oct 15th in Hyderabad) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-23 17:35 -0700
      Re: Java Conference 2011 (Oct 15th in Hyderabad) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-23 18:36 -0700

#8242 — Re: Java Conference 2011 (Oct 15th in Hyderabad)

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:34:34 -0700 (PDT), vinod kumar
<vinodsiliconindia@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>I believe it is worth attending as there are interesting topics. (See
>the Sessions below).

I remember going to Java One, hearing Gosling, meeting Peter van der
Linden, and talking to hundreds of people.  Sun also provided banks of
Solaris machines which was like eating Ben & Gerry ice cream. They
also had JavaOS machines which were not ready for prime time, and
which were discontinued.  The hit of the conference were Java Rings, a
ring with a tiny Java chip on board that remembered how you liked your
coffee.

I also went to two Colorado Summits, one when I got to ask questions
of Bill Joy, one of the high points of my existence. It was so fun to
rub shoulders with people from all over the globe, especially the wild
and crazy Australians.

You can collect brochures more easily on the net, but nothing beats
face to face questioning with the people who created the various
products.  

I hope your conference goes well.
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#8243

Roedy Green wrote:
> vinod kumar wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>> I believe it is worth attending as there are interesting topics. (See
>> the Sessions below).
> 
> I remember going to Java One, ... [snip] ...
> 
> You can collect brochures more easily on the net, but nothing beats
> face to face questioning with the people who created the various
> products.  
> 
> I hope your conference goes well.

If it's a good conference I couldn't agree with you more, Roedy. But I am always put off by press for such events that use the old disingenuous "I got to know of an exciting event happening in Hyderabad on October 15" dodge.  The person is so very clearly a shill for the organizers, why does he feel the need to pretend he's some innocent bystander who just happens to recommend this event out of the goodness of his heart for the benefit of every Java programmer on Earth?  "I got to know of"?  Really?

The problem is that that approach smells shady, at best.  I have to conclude that either the promoter here is dishonest or he's foolish to use such a blatantly sham approach.  For the worldwide audience, there are so many conferences and activities to choose from, given the limited time and budget workaday programmers can spare, you would want to market your event so as to appeal to the best and brightest among them, not to repel them.  The "innocent Samaritan" marketing spiel gives those of us with finite resources and reasonable cognitive skills all the excuse we need to redline the pitch and look elsewhere for professional development.

But wait, there's more!

-- 
Lew

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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:35:48 -0700 (PDT), Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>The problem is that that approach smells shady, at best. 

I give plugs to the JavaOne and the Colorado Summit not because of
perks, but because I wish everyone could have the great experiences I
did.

The Colorado Summits are held about 7,000 feet up at a ski resort near
Colorado Springs.  My body just can't adjust to that any more,
otherwise I would find some excuse to be a presenter.

There is a tendency of Americans to discount anything non-American,
especially Indian. Granted, before anyone plops down their money, they
need to do some research. I prefer to give them the benefit of the
doubt.

I may have told the story of my visit to then Bombay in  India in 1985
where I gave my pitch that India should become a software giant to one
of the industry giants. I had been billed as the second coming.  I got
to meet Gandhi's godson and spend an afternoon in his private Gandhi
museum. Coming from so far way, I was of course given great deference.
The word got out who I was, and strangers stopped me in the street to
discus computers and programming.  The people were so excited that an
outsider believed they could succeed. I don't know if it was me that
sparked it, but it happened.

So have a sort of grandfatherly interest in the success of India in
the computing field.

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Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
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