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Re: creating a new language

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On 07/26/2013 07:53 AM, Joerg Meier wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:44:28 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>
>> Unless you can show that programming language names and
>> business names share characteristica then I do not see
>> the point.
>
>> I can tell you that I have never tried how easy a programming
>> language is too google as part of deciding what programming language
>> to use for a project.
>
>> And I would like to hear somebody say that they have. It does
>> not make any sense at all.
>
> That's because you think about it from the wrong end. Sure, once you
> decided you might want to use a language, its name wont matter much. But if
> you look into a language, and have a lot of trouble finding documentation,
> examples and other resources on Google, you might decide that the language
> is not worth the trouble of having no easy access to information, without
> ever even getting to the point of promoting that language to be an actual
> choice.
>
> God knows one of the reasons I appreciate Java so much is because it is so
> very easy and convenient to find whatever I want to know about it on
> Google.
>
> Liebe Gruesse,
> 		Joerg
>
The programming languages J and K, both based off APL, suffer from this 
because they are niche, albeit powerful and capable. You pretty much 
have to add "programming" or similar as a keyword.

R, on the other hand, even though it's also a single letter, has no 
problems on Google, because so many people use it.

In a way a seemingly poor name doesn't matter much on Google. In early 
stages of adoption few people locate a language through Google, because 
they don't know about it - they find out via other mechanisms. Once they 
are interested (the early adopters) they do use Google, with refined 
searches, and that generates the hits that make sure that a single-name 
search by follow-on enthusiasts does start to percolate toward the first 
few search pages. Assuming the language gets popular.

One of the problems with Java and Google is that you find so much dreck. 
There is a happy medium.

AHS
-- 
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign:
that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
-- Jonathan Swift

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creating a new language mcheung63@gmail.com - 2013-07-20 22:06 -0700
  Re: creating a new language "Keith D. Lee" <keithdlee2012@gmail.com> - 2013-07-21 10:31 +0000
    Re: creating a new language mcheung63@gmail.com - 2013-07-22 02:33 -0700
  Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-21 09:27 -0400
    Re: creating a new language mcheung63@gmail.com - 2013-07-22 02:34 -0700
  Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-22 11:42 +0200
    Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-22 21:51 -0400
      Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-23 09:06 +0200
        Re: creating a new language Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-07-23 14:36 -0700
          Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-24 00:57 +0200
            Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-24 01:05 +0200
              Re: creating a new language Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-07-24 13:00 +0200
        Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-24 18:49 -0400
          Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-25 04:54 +0200
            Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-25 04:57 +0200
              Re: creating a new language Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-07-24 22:01 -0700
                Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-25 08:16 +0200
            Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-25 19:44 -0400
              Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-26 10:22 +0200
                Re: creating a new language Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2013-07-26 10:38 +0200
                Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-02 22:21 -0400
                Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-02 22:19 -0400
              Re: creating a new language Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-07-26 12:53 +0200
                Re: creating a new language Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-07-26 19:32 -0300
                Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-08-02 22:26 -0400
      Re: creating a new language Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2013-08-14 14:34 +0000
        Re: creating a new language Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-08-14 11:20 -0400
  Re: creating a new language Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-07-24 01:24 -0700
    Re: creating a new language Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-07-24 13:03 +0200
      Re: creating a new language Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-07-24 19:47 +0000
    Re: creating a new language Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-07-24 15:10 -0700
      Re: creating a new language Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-07-24 16:47 -0700
        Re: creating a new language Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-07-24 16:55 -0700
        Re: creating a new language Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-07-25 12:03 +0200
      Re: creating a new language Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-07-25 17:43 -0300
        Re: creating a new language Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-07-25 22:53 +0200
        Re: creating a new language Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-07-25 17:30 -0400
        Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-25 19:47 -0400
    Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-24 18:50 -0400
      Re: creating a new language Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-07-24 20:54 -0400
        Re: creating a new language Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-07-25 11:51 +0200
          Re: creating a new language Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-07-25 20:01 +0000
            Re: creating a new language Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-25 19:46 -0400
              Re: creating a new language Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-08-13 23:58 +0000

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