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Re: LDAP, .setReturningObjFlag(true) and alternatives...

From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: LDAP, .setReturningObjFlag(true) and alternatives...
Date 2023-10-13 11:15 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 10/13/2023 10:57 AM, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
> I've stumbled over java code, that does an LDAP query, and
> sets flag .setReturningObjFlag(true) on the searchControl object.
> 
> According to some ressources, like e.g.
>    https://app.deepsource.com/directory/analyzers/java/issues/JAVA-S1026
> this should be avoided, unless the LDAP server and its
> data is really trusted.
> 
> I'd be curious, what would be the alternatives, under the assumption,
> that there are indeed serialized Objects stored in LDAP in whose value
> I'm really interested, and if I then didn't want to trust the server
> to always return data for the expected objects.
> 
> According to description of setReturningObjFlag(): if this flag
> is false "... only the name and class of the object is returned",
> which to me sounds like I won't get the serialized data.
> 
> Do I misunderstand it, or is there no third option besides:
>    - trust the LDAP-server and have received data immediately deserialized
>    - not trust the LDAP-server and just not get the data at all.
> 
> Is there, maybe, a way to restrict the classes to a whitelist
> of classes that it may deserialize, and get an exception on
> any attempt to pull in any other class, before that other class
> is even initialized?
> 
> Is there, maybe, a way to just retrieve the serialized stream and
> scrape the relevant info without full deserialization?

Java deserialization of objects is known to be potential
security problem:
- use all memory
- execute code in readObject method

But I assume your LDAP service is somewhat trusted (as it
its usually provides authentication & authorization!).

So depending on security level you can:
* decide that you trust LDAP and continue to automatic deserialize
* continue to automatic deserialize but find a way to plugin
   a deserialization filter (assuming you are on Java 9+ where that
   was introduced)
* drop the automatic deserialize and redesign the data transfer
   in some way:
     - instead of Java object have either JSON or XML and
       do a DOM tree parse not a binding to get the data over
       in a Java object
     - move the info from LDAP to somewhere else like database

Arne



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LDAP, .setReturningObjFlag(true) and alternatives... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2023-10-13 14:57 +0000
  Re: LDAP, .setReturningObjFlag(true) and alternatives... Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-10-13 11:15 -0400
    Re: LDAP, .setReturningObjFlag(true) and alternatives... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2023-10-18 14:15 +0000
      Re: LDAP, .setReturningObjFlag(true) and alternatives... Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-10-18 10:43 -0400

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