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Re: updates and so on

From Fredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: updates and so on
Date 2013-11-24 20:14 +0000
Message-ID <slrnl94nhk.1dm.fredrik@biggles.jonson.org> (permalink)
References <updates-20131121024649@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <l6lnvr$v5g$1@news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <Bb2dnXex7KMyEBPPnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <l6n693$bas$1@news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <sv6dnQ3PC8z0gBLPnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>

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In <sv6dnQ3PC8z0gBLPnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@westnet.com.au> Qu0ll wrote:
 
>  The future of Java [...] is IoT.  And, I also believe that JavaFX
>  (and hence Java) can be a big player in mobile and tablet space when
>  iOS and Android support is viable next year.  It's being worked on by
>  both Oracle and the JavaFX community[...]

I really don't see that happening - i.e. Oracle gaining serious momentum
with Java FX on Android or Apple devices.

Both Google and Apple have a firm grip on their mobile development
offerings. And the developers enjoy the raw power you get with native
development, a power you never had with Java ME. Would developers really
want to trade that for cross platform development bundled in a
proprietary offering controlled by Oracle?

And the users, would they accept going back to the least common
denominator-based UX reasoning that once dominated Java ME applications?
I understand that Java FX is not Java ME, but besides the possibility of
WORA, what other advantage would FX offer Android or IOS developers?

There are already a few cross platform efforts - f.x. Apache Cordova and
Xamarin - but so far I have seen none that are really gaining momentum.
Neither Microsoft or any other up and coming alternatives, like Firefox
OS, seem really interested in reviving the Java ME train or anything
like it again, and the manufacturers that used Java ME have moved on to
Android a long time ago.

Besides, isn't various Linux based platform complemented with scripting
languages, like Python, Lua, Javascript, or perhaps compiled Go, a more
likely solution for the part of IoT that is not phones and tablets?

-- 
Fredrik Jonson

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Re: updates and so on Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2013-11-21 20:47 +0100
  Re: updates and so on "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-11-22 09:47 +1100
    Re: updates and so on Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-11-21 18:37 -0500
      Re: updates and so on "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-11-22 10:44 +1100
        Re: updates and so on Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-11-21 19:13 -0500
          Re: updates and so on "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-11-22 14:00 +1100
            Re: updates and so on Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-11-21 22:29 -0500
          Re: updates and so on Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2013-11-22 13:32 +0000
            Re: updates and so on Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-11-22 20:08 -0500
    Re: updates and so on Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2013-11-22 09:57 +0100
      Re: updates and so on "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-11-22 20:01 +1100
        Re: updates and so on Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2013-11-22 10:30 +0100
          Re: updates and so on Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-09 21:15 -0500
        Re: updates and so on Fredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org> - 2013-11-24 20:14 +0000
          Re: updates and so on Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-11-24 21:33 +0100
          Re: updates and so on "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-11-25 21:21 +1100
          Re: updates and so on Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-09 21:18 -0500

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