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Re: Java licensing

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On 12/13/2018 9:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/13/2018 8:48 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> I'm late to the party on this one but I'm hoping to catch up....
>>
>> I saw messages to the effect that Java licensing is changing several 
>> months back when I last updated my Java 8.* JDK but hadn't taken the 
>> time to look into it. Tonight, I realized my version of Eclipse on 
>> this machine was getting pretty dated and decided to update it to 
>> Eclipse 2018-09. When I launched the new version, it converted my 
>> workspace, as uual, and immediately broke all my JavaFX code. Every 
>> single JavaFX import was suddenly invalid. I decided to install the 
>> latest Java 10 JDK, only to find that JDK 10 is already out of support 
>> so I found the current JDK for Java 11. Before downloading it, I saw 
>> the important notice about the licensing and finally read it.
>>
>> The bit that caught my eye was that it only allowed me to write demos 
>> with it; I could NOT write code for my own personal use or to support 
>> a very low-traffic website used by a club I'm in, as I have been doing 
>> for a while now. Well, I suppose there *is* a way but I'm guessing it 
>> involves giving someone money for the privilege. The license agreement 
>> doesn't talk about this so my first question is: how do I get the 
>> right to use the code I've written for my own personal use and to 
>> support my club's website?
>>
>> The Oracle website said another option I had was to use the Java 11 
>> under a GPL license, which seems like it would allow what I want to 
>> do. So I downloaded the Open JDK for Java 11 but I'm darned if I can 
>> figure out how to coax Eclipse to use it; it doesn't contain a JRE and 
>> that's what Eclipse wants. So, my second question is: can I get 
>> Eclipse to use the Open JDK and, if so, how?
> 
> re license)
> 
> Oracle Java and OpenJDK are practically the same code base.
> 
> Java <= 10 worked like:
> 
> paid Oracle Java - support almost forever
> free Oracle Java - support N years
> open source OpenJDK - support for N years
> 
> Java >=11 simplified that:
> 
> paid Oracle Java - support almost forever
> open source OpenJDK - support for 0.5/N years
> 
> So you need to take OpenJDK if you don't want to pay.
> 
> And Eclipse works fine with OpenJDK.
> 
> re support)
> 
> Java <= 8 worked like:
> * new version every 2-3 years
> * all versions similar in support
> 
> Java >= 9 works like:
> 
> * new version every 6 months
> * every third version is LTS (long term support)
> * non-LTS versions are supported 6 months
> * LTS versions are supported 3 years
> 
> If you are not interested in frequent upgrades you will
> want to only take LTS versions.
> 
> So you will upgrade 8 -> 11 -> 14 -> 17 -> 20.
> 
> re JavaFX)
> 
> JavaFX status is a bit messy.
> 
> Java 6 & 7 : separate download
> Java 8     : bundled with Oracle Java, no modules
> Java 9, 10 : bundled with Oracle Java, modules
> Java 11    : separate download
> 
> So for Java 11 you need to download JavaFX.
> 
> Link:
>     https://openjfx.io/

Just one more note.

OpenJDK is available under "GPL with classpath exception" not "GPL".

It makes a difference.

Arne

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Java licensing Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2018-12-13 20:48 -0500
  Re: Java licensing Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-12-13 21:05 -0500
    Re: Java licensing Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-12-13 21:10 -0500
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