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Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily?

From j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily?
Date 2017-09-21 09:29 +0200
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But not all class properties. For example the super class
is loaded before the class. So this API method of Class:

      getSuperclass()

is not lazy. Now question is whether for named nested
classes, that are static (or non-static without references
to the outer class), whether this method, is lazy or not:

      getDeclaringClass()

lewbloch@gmail.com schrieb:
> Pretty much all classes in Java are lazily loaded and lazily initialized.
>
> Since an inner class by definition in Java is non-static, I don't know how you could get the inner class without initializing the outer, but I have yet to peruse the JLS to explore that.
>
> For static nested classes it makes sense that getting the enclosing class would load the class, but since that's not one of the actions that initializes a class it would be improper for that to initialize the outer class.
>

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Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-20 19:23 +0200
  Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2017-09-20 17:45 -0400
    Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-21 01:18 +0200
      Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-09-20 17:28 -0700
        Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-21 09:29 +0200
          Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-21 09:40 +0200
          Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-09-21 11:44 -0700
  Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2017-09-21 21:18 +0200
    Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2017-09-21 16:20 -0400
      Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-22 11:12 +0200
        Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2017-09-22 15:55 -0400
          Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-23 18:33 +0200
    Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-09-22 13:48 -0700
      Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2017-09-22 23:46 -0400
        Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-09-25 13:23 -0700
      Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2017-09-24 17:39 +0200
        Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2017-09-25 07:38 -0400
        Re: Are Outer Classes Loaded Lazily? lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-09-25 13:25 -0700

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