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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Moving code in Netbeans |
| Date | 2016-06-07 20:31 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 6/7/2016 8:19 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 6/7/2016 7:44 AM, Eric Sosman wrote:
>> [...]
>> But
>> it doesn't seem to me that anyone should care about the auto-generated
>> code's appearance; it seems akin to worrying about the appearance of the
>> JVM bytecode generated by the compiler. Although auto-generated code is
>> Java, it is not "source:" the source is the stuff the GUI design tool
>> takes in, and the auto-generated Java is "object code." Nobody is
>> expected to read it (except in extremis while chasing weird bugs), and
>> certainly nobody is expected to modify it.
>
> Hm. I believe that some GUI's actual used the code as source for
> GUI builder.
>
> It is almost a requirement for a bi-directional GUI builder where
> one can eithe ruse tool or manual edit the code, where the latter
> does not break the GUI builder (assuming you play nice).
>
> But NB used to be uni-directional and if it still is, then that
> logic does not apply.
I'm not aware of such bi-directional setups -- but there are lots
and lots of things I'm not aware of! One stumbling block that occurs
to me is that deciding what the "source" is could become difficult:
For build X the source is Foo.form, for build X+1 it's Foo.java, and
for build X+2 it's Foo.form again. Can you see a source control
system going bonkers over this?
(For build X+3 it turns out that *both* Foo.java and Foo.form
have been edited, incompatibly, since X+2 ...)
Long ago I had an experience of this general flavor. A user (a
full professor, no less) came to me for help with his FORTRAN code,
and I hit a wall: I could not for the life of me figure out how his
code produced the output. It turned out he'd run the compiler in a
mode that printed the generated assembly code, then hand-edited the
assembly for "efficiency" -- and then brought me the original FORTRAN
when his hand-edited assembly no longer worked ... Being able to say
with certainty that *THIS* is The Source is vital to debugging, and
I'd get the heebie-jeebies if that ability were threatened.
--
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
"Don't be afraid of work. Make work afraid of you." -- TLM
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Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-06 23:30 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Dave <dboland9@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-07 00:16 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-07 06:53 +0000
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2016-06-07 09:26 +0100
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-07 07:44 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Dave <dboland9@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-07 07:53 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-07 08:24 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-07 13:22 +0000
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 06:23 -0700
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-07 10:10 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 07:36 -0700
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-06-07 20:23 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 13:43 -0700
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-06-07 20:30 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-06-07 20:19 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-07 20:31 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-06-07 21:12 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:41 -0700
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-06-08 17:08 -0400
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 13:39 -0700
Re: Moving code in Netbeans Robin Koch <robin.koch@t-online.de> - 2016-06-07 23:29 +0200
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