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Floating-point hash keys (Was: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?)

From Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Floating-point hash keys (Was: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?)
Date 2016-06-06 12:02 -0400
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On 6/6/2016 8:13 AM, Jan Burse wrote:
> [... poor scattering of Float.hashCode() and Double.hashCode() ...]

     It's a bit tangential, but I've been wondering: Why do you want to
use floating-point numbers as hash keys?

     There's nothing wrong with a Float or Double key once you have it
(aside from the weaknesses you've noticed for zero-rich mantissas),
but my question is: How do you calculate such a key accurately?  We
all know that computations can be "identical" in a mathematical sense
but quite different computationally.  If you store something with a
key X and later run a "similar" calculation to get X' (different by
a ULP or so), the hash table won't find the original entry.

     So: Are these Floats and Doubles "really" floating-point numbers,
or are they "proxies" for something else?  If so, it might be wiser
to use the "something else" as the key instead.

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Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? bursejan@gmail.com - 2016-06-05 17:22 -0700
  Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-06 07:48 -0400
    Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-06 14:13 +0200
      TreeBins Problem and Float/Double (Was: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-06 14:45 +0200
      Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-06 08:47 -0400
      Floating-point hash keys (Was: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-06 12:02 -0400
        Re: Floating-point hash keys (Was: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-09 05:33 -0700
          Re: Floating-point hash keys (Was: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-09 16:27 +0200
  Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-07 03:24 -0700
    Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-07 15:38 +0200
    Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-07 15:39 +0200
      Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-07 15:42 +0200
        Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-09 05:29 -0700
          Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2016-06-09 08:00 -0500
            Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 06:07 -0700
              Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-06-09 11:41 -0400
              Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-11 01:17 -0700
                Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Daniel Pitts <usenet@coloraura.com> - 2016-06-11 12:31 -0700
                Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2016-06-12 15:42 -0500
                Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Daniel Pitts <usenet@coloraura.com> - 2016-06-12 21:03 -0700
                Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-13 14:13 -0700
        Re: Sideremark II ( Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler?) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-10 14:11 -0700
      Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-07 20:38 -0700
        Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-09 05:15 -0700
          Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-09 16:26 +0200
            Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-12 02:28 -0700
              Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-12 12:03 +0200
                Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-13 14:07 +0000
                Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-13 14:17 +0000
                Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-13 14:20 +0000
                Re: Java Source of Meiyan Hash Scrambler? j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-06-13 16:23 +0200

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