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Re: XQuery with Java resources

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On 5/4/2016 10:16 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2016 08:42:50 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 5/2/2016 6:44 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 May 2016 00:01:13 +0000, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 08:28:00 -0700, Priya Mohan wrote:
>>>>> Hi - I am looking to learn the XQuery with Java. Could you please direct me to
>>  >>> any beginner books and good tutorials for me to start learning and
>> get the
>>  >>> concepts as quickly as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the help
>>>>
>>>> Likely, the easiest path would be to grab a copy of
>>>> SAXON The XSLT and XQuery Processor
>>>> <http://saxon.sourceforge.net/> and start playing.
>>>
>>> Another option. Away from the metal, but maybe what you are looking for.
>>> Easy to get started with, just download the installer and run. Everything you
>>> need to get started is in there. Lots of demos and tutorials.
>>>
>>> eXistdb
>>> <http://exist-db.org/exist/apps/homepage/index.html>
>>
>> And that product was very hot 10 years ago.
>>
>> :-)
>>
> Some years ago I had an occasion to look into XML databases. At that time I
> fashioned up some stuff with Berkeley DB. It was a good bit of work and after
> some time I simply lost interest. Recently I have been thinking again about
> XML databases in connection with a sort of CMS system that I'm envisioning.
> This post prompted me to have a look about and I came across eXist-db. I've
> installed it had a pretty good look at the documentation and done some playing.
> It looks like it could handle a lot of what I have in mind. If you're familiar
> with Distributed Proofreaders what I have in mind is similar.
>
> I haven't spent a great amount of time researching yet so your post prompts me
> to ask. If eXistdb was a hot product 10 years ago and is apparently still
> undergoing maintenance and upgrading that would seem to indicate a pretty well
> used product. Is there something out there that has overtaken it? Are XML
> databases passé? I'm afraid I don't know the space well, so any hints or some
> more words on the subject would be much appreciated.

First the disclaimer:
- this is all very subjective
- much of this is 10+ years back and my memory is not as good
   as it used to be
- I am not and was not in any way an expert in this area

With that out of the way let me give my take on the topic.

In the early 00's then XML databases was very hot.

The biggest player was a commercial offering from Software AG
(I think they call it Tamino today, but I don't think they did
back then).

The biggest player in the open source space was eXist DB.

I tried it out back then and it seemed rather cool.

I consider the XML database market almost dead or
extremely niche if you prefer that term today.

For several reasons:
* RDBMS's like Oracle, DB2 and SQLServer added some XML support
* JSON took a large piece of XML's space (JSON is much more
   common than XML in newer NoSQL databases)
* maybe the market was never as big as some thought
   it was

That should not prevent you from using eXist DB if you have
a good use case for it.

Just don't expect thousands of jobs requiring eXist DB skills
to pop up.

Arne

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XQuery with Java resources Priya Mohan <mmpriya66@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:28 -0700
  Re: XQuery with Java resources Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:01 +0000
    Re: XQuery with Java resources Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-01 19:50 +0000
    Re: XQuery with Java resources Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-02 22:44 +0000
      Re: XQuery with Java resources Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-05-04 08:42 -0400
        Re: XQuery with Java resources Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-04 14:16 +0000
          Re: XQuery with Java resources Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 07:31 -0700
            Re: XQuery with Java resources Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-04 17:34 +0000
            Re: XQuery with Java resources Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-05-04 20:05 -0400
              Re: XQuery with Java resources Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 06:06 -0700
                Re: XQuery with Java resources Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-05-05 10:47 -0400
          Re: XQuery with Java resources Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-05-04 20:01 -0400
            Re: XQuery with Java resources Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-05 21:08 +0000
          Re: XQuery with Java resources Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-05-05 10:50 +0000

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