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Re: Assignment or Initialization?

From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Assignment or Initialization?
Date 2016-02-01 20:55 -0500
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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References <assignment-20160201130855@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <n8oa1b$tq9$2@dont-email.me>

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On 2/1/2016 2:03 PM, 4ndre4 wrote:
> On 01/02/2016 12:23, Stefan Ram wrote:
> [...]
>> final int i;
>> i = 3;
>
> This is illegal.

No. It is valid Java.

> final int i = 3;
>
> is the correct form: initialization.

Both forms are correct (assuming correct means: valid syntax and
well defined semantics).

In this particular case it is the best form.

Bit in more complex cases with if and switch then the original form
becomes necessary.

>                                     You can't declare a final variable
> and THEN assign a value to it, unless you are in a constructor, in which
> case it's still an initialization.

No. That is not how Java is.

In fact the JLS section about final start with:

"Once a final variable has been assigned, it always contains the same 
value."

so final variables do get assigned (in Java terminology).

Ref:

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/jls-4.html#jls-4.12.4

Arne

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Re: Assignment or Initialization? 4ndre4 <4ndre4@4ndre4.com.invalid> - 2016-02-01 19:03 +0000
  Re: Assignment or Initialization? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-02-01 14:47 -0500
    Re: Assignment or Initialization? Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> - 2016-02-01 12:31 -0800
      Re: Assignment or Initialization? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-02-01 16:03 -0500
        Re: Assignment or Initialization? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-01 19:52 -0500
          Re: Assignment or Initialization? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-02-01 20:46 -0500
          Re: Assignment or Initialization? Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2016-02-01 23:39 -0500
            Re: Assignment or Initialization? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-02-02 09:14 -0500
      Re: Assignment or Initialization? 4ndre4 <4ndre4@4ndre4.com.invalid> - 2016-02-02 19:25 +0000
  Re: Assignment or Initialization? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 13:13 -0800
    Re: Assignment or Initialization? 4ndre4 <4ndre4@4ndre4.com.invalid> - 2016-02-02 19:26 +0000
  Re: Assignment or Initialization? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-02-01 20:55 -0500
    Re: Assignment or Initialization? 4ndre4 <4ndre4@4ndre4.com.invalid> - 2016-02-02 19:29 +0000
      Re: Assignment or Initialization? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 11:44 -0800
        Re: Assignment or Initialization? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 13:16 -0800
      Re: Assignment or Initialization? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 13:15 -0800
      Re: Assignment or Initialization? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-02-02 18:13 -0500
      Re: Assignment or Initialization? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2016-02-03 12:10 +0100
        Re: Assignment or Initialization? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 05:14 -0800
          Re: Assignment or Initialization? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 13:39 -0800
  Re: Assignment or Initialization? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 10:32 -0800
    Re: Assignment or Initialization? 4ndre4 <4ndre4@4ndre4.com.invalid> - 2016-02-02 19:22 +0000
  Re: Assignment or Initialization? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2016-02-03 09:03 -0800

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