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Re: Using jar inside a jar

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On 1/23/2015 10:46 AM, Nigel Wade wrote:
> On 23/01/15 12:12, Joerg Meier wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:10:35 +0000, Nigel Wade wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a fan of the "big jar" concept. I much prefer to keep
>>> libraries in separate jar's. If a library class gets
>>> updated it's only need to update a single library jar, rather than
>>> every "big jar" which contains that class.
>>
>> Different areas, I'd say. For end users you almost never would want
>> them to
>> update libraries on their own, unless your end users are developers.
>>
>
> Why not? End user, or system admin. I'd still not supply a "big bundled
> jar" unless there was a specific requirement to do so.
>
> When you get updates from Microsoft do you get a few small patched
> libraries, or GB's of statically linked applications each time?

     My plain-vanilla Windows 7 system has ten count them ten
different versions of "Microsoft Visual C++ 20xx Redistributable"
installed.  Why do you suppose Redmond ships so many different
editions of the same library, instead of just updating the latest?

     In other words: If you develop an application using external
libraries A,B,C, you will at some point test it with A 1.2.0-5,
B 2.1.1-18, and C 1.9.12-3.  Will your application still work
properly with updated A 1.2.1-0, B2.1.1-21, and C 2.0.1-1?  To
get around issues of version skew, might you consider bundling
the tested versions of A,B,C along with your application as
opposed to telling the end user to install A,B,C versions in
combinations you've not tried?

     Welcome to the joys of "component architecture" ...

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Using jar inside a jar Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-01-22 11:48 +0100
  Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-22 11:28 +0000
    Re: Using jar inside a jar Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-01-22 13:05 +0100
      Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-22 13:46 +0100
        Re: Using jar inside a jar Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-01-22 08:15 -0500
          Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-22 16:30 +0100
        Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-22 14:18 +0000
          Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-22 16:29 +0100
            Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-23 11:10 +0000
              Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-23 13:12 +0100
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-23 15:46 +0000
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-01-23 11:18 -0500
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-23 22:42 +0100
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-23 17:02 -0500
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-24 14:14 +0100
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-01-24 15:33 +0000
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-26 09:28 +0000
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-01-26 21:14 +0100
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-01-26 15:23 -0500
                Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-28 14:19 +0000
              Re: Using jar inside a jar Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2015-01-24 11:46 +0000
        Re: Using jar inside a jar Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2015-01-23 00:47 -0500
        Re: Using jar inside a jar Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-01-23 12:28 +0100
      Re: Using jar inside a jar Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-01-22 14:18 +0000

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