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| From | Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Help with Deck of cards assignment and getting it to deal... |
| Date | 2014-08-03 16:49 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 8/3/2014 3:26 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>[...]
> I must admit that I can not follow you.
>
> The fact that different games may use a different ordering is
> not an argument against Comparable<>.
>
> Comparable<> is not the one and only ordering. Comparable<> is
> just the natural ordering. It is perfectly valid to have a
> Comparable<> with the natural ordering and a bunch of
> Comparator<> to handle the context specific orderings.
Although one could select different Comparators for different
games -- one for Ace-low, say, and another for Ace-high -- there
is no way a Comparator could work for "Ace-either" games like Poker
(and certainly not for "Ace-both" games like high-low Poker!). Like
Comparable, Comparator reflects a _total ordering_ on the objects it
compares, and a total ordering must be transitive:
If X < Y and Y < Z then X < Z, for all X,Y,Z.
In Poker, one can have
Ace < Five and Five < Ten but Ten < Ace
... violating transitivity, so the ranks do not follow a total order.
One could, of course, implement a Comparator (or a Comparable)
that broke the rules and violated its "contractual obligation" to
impose a total order. But a Comparable/Comparator that didn't behave
as it should would make mockery of the claim
> Your Card class will be more easily used if it implement the
> java.lang.Comparable<T> interface
... because none of the Comparable- or Comparator-based utility
classes and methods would behave properly: Collections.sort(),
Arrays.binarySearch(), SortedMap(), ... Something that simply
doesn't work cannot be "more easily used."
--
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
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[OT] Re: Help with Deck of cards assignment and getting it to deal... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-09-04 15:05 -0400
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Re: Help with Deck of cards assignment and getting it to deal... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-09-07 22:13 -0400
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Re: Help with Deck of cards assignment and getting it to deal... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-08-03 17:05 -0400
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