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Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator).

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From Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
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Subject Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator).
Date Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:58:33 +0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:47:44 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:52:26 -0700, Roedy Green
>>3. People like the security of text files.  Database have a habit of
>>losing everything, perhaps with software is discontinued, OSes changes.
> 
>      I would say "simplicity" instead of "security", but it is about
> the same argument.  Text files convert to other systems fairly easily,
> too, but SCID between two SCID systems might not.
>
Agreed. At present the main issue in moving code is line terminators 
(unless you're fighting the ASCII <--> EBCDIC battle). The benefit of 
text is that file transfer software (FTP, Kermit, etc) does this 'for 
free' but even if it doesn't, very simple tools such as tr, dos2unix and 
unix2dos  will solve that problem.

I have a nasty suspicion that the transfer weapon of choice between SCID 
implementations might turn out to be voluminous XML.

>      Typing is much faster than mousing for me.  The text interface is
> also simpler.  I can use my own editor that fits my preferences rather
> than getting locked into a GUI IDE.
>
Exactly the same here - I use a portable editor (microEmacs) which can be 
easily set up to use exactly the same keystrokes on almost any system 
with an ANSI C compiler. In particular, its ability to associate 
customisable formatting conventions (tab-length, line-wrap, auto-indent, 
etc) with the file extension so something I really miss in editors that 
don't support it.

I prefer to develop Java with a command line, text editor and ant. I've 
used IntelliJ and generally liked it once I'd gotten used to that busy 
screen, except for one thing: apart from specific refactoring facilities 
its text editor seemed to be missing all but the most basic editing 
functions - there were times I'd have killed for a general-purpose regex-
based search-and-replace facility.


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code generation for the ternary operator Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-10-28 06:46 -0700
  Re: code generation for the ternary operator Jaap Droogers <JaapDroogers@unusable.meel.homelinux.net> - 2011-10-28 16:07 +0200
    Re: code generation for the ternary operator markspace <-@.> - 2011-10-28 08:32 -0700
      Re: code generation for the ternary operator Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com> - 2011-11-01 01:53 -0400
        Re: code generation for the ternary operator Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 06:25 -0700
          Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-01 09:41 -0700
            Re: Source code representation Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-11-01 13:46 -0700
              Re: Source code representation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-01 16:09 -0700
              Re: Source code representation Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 23:54 -0700
            Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-01 17:33 -0700
              Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-02 01:19 -0700
                Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-02 09:42 -0700
              Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-02 07:45 -0700
              Re: Source code representation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-02 10:58 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-02 14:11 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-02 15:21 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-02 16:07 -0700
            Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 23:52 -0700
              Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-02 09:47 -0700
                Re: Source code representation (was: code generation for the ternary operator). Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-02 20:58 +0000
                Re: Source code representation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-02 15:27 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-02 23:18 +0000
                Re: Source code representation Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-02 17:30 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-02 15:30 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-02 21:30 -0700
                Re: Source code representation Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-02 22:07 -0700
            Re: Source code representation Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-05 21:01 -0400
      Re: code generation for the ternary operator Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-05 20:56 -0400
    Re: code generation for the ternary operator rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2011-10-29 13:01 +0100
    Re: code generation for the ternary operator Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-29 10:46 -0700
  Re: code generation for the ternary operator Henk van Voorthuijsen <voorth@xs4all.nl> - 2011-10-28 08:05 -0700
    Re: code generation for the ternary operator Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-10-28 15:41 +0000
  Re: code generation for the ternary operator Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-10-28 10:31 -0700
    Re: code generation for the ternary operator Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2011-10-29 03:24 +0200
  Re: code generation for the ternary operator Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2011-10-29 00:23 +0200
    Re: code generation for the ternary operator Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-29 10:50 -0700
      Re: code generation for the ternary operator Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-01 13:36 +0100
  Re: code generation for the ternary operator Michal Kleczek <kleku@poczta.onet.pl> - 2011-10-31 17:38 +0100

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