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Re: Java program "debugging" itself...

From Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Java program "debugging" itself...
Date 2016-06-02 22:24 +0200
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On 02.06.2016 16:38, Eric Sosman wrote:

>      The problem is a lot like that of Linux' OOM Killer: The task that
> hits the limit is not necessarily the task at fault.  If a runaway task
> gobbles up almost all the memory and then a well-behaved task gets an
> OutOfMemoryException on something innocuous like `new int[10]', the
> exception is thrown to the "wrong" thread: Not the runaway, but the
> innocent bystander.

I think this hints straight at an important underlying issue - 
regardless of whether the option exists that Andreas has asked for: how 
do you determine the "culprit"?  Eric has illustrated one example, 
here's another one: one thread allocates tens of thousands of int[100] 
while another thread allocates a single char[10000] hitting a memory 
limit (or worse, OOM because of fragmentation).

Basically it starts with, you would have to keep track of the overall 
resource consumption of a task or thread.  Then define criteria for 
termination and then you need to find a way to implement that.  One 
approach that comes to mind is JMX: a process can connect to itself and 
monitor its own activity (btw. "monitor" is a much better term than 
"debug" for this thread's title).

Kind regards

	robert


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Java program "debugging" itself... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-02 13:36 +0000
  Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-02 14:17 +0000
    Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-02 15:06 +0000
      Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-02 11:14 -0400
        Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-02 15:43 +0000
  Re: Java program "debugging" itself... "comp.lang.coffee" <kirandesai84@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 07:21 -0700
    Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-02 10:38 -0400
      Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-02 22:24 +0200
    Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-02 15:28 +0000
      Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-02 22:22 +0000
        Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-03 15:58 +0000
          Re: Java program "debugging" itself... Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-04 21:32 +0200

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