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Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy?

Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2014-10-19 11:00 -0700
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Subject Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy?
From Saxo <jeti789@web.de>

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> > Scala is now over 10 years old. Those 423 for Scala took over 10 years! This is what makes me think. Otherwise I would just go with Kotlin.
> 
> Kotlin has spend 3 years reaching 0.
> 
> But if it is not CV driving this then you can ignore these numbers.

Problem is that some things in Scala are really screwed up. If build times don't scare people away, then it will be the code that can be hard to read.

The Kotlin guys really spent time thinking about how to do things. Kotlin is really Java done right + Scala done right. I think I just do Kotlin without falling prey to some illusion that any language on the JVM other than Java will ever really matter. Kotlin is OO really done well and it fits really well to my OO knowledge build in many years doing Smalltalk. 

Question is more what to develop with it. Here you can fall prey to the next illusion that anything you do will be noticed and make a difference for job applications. Maybe just play with it and write some blog articles that show good understanding and see what happens during the next 1-2 years when Kotlin become 1.0.

So long, Saxo

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Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-16 05:27 -0700
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-10-16 21:15 +0200
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-10-16 16:28 -0400
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-10-16 19:13 -0400
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-17 06:34 -0700
    Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-10-18 22:42 -0400
      Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-19 11:00 -0700
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-10-19 11:03 -0700
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-21 05:48 -0700
    Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? ĵess stone <j3ss.st0n3@gmail.com> - 2014-10-22 06:34 +0000
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-10-21 15:10 +0200
    Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-21 07:09 -0700
      Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-10-21 16:26 +0200
        Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-21 08:03 -0700
    Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-22 07:22 -0700
      Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-10-22 17:14 +0200
        Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-23 08:53 -0700
          Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-10-24 00:37 +0200
  Re: Alternative languages on the JVM: what's a meaningful strategy? Saxo <jeti789@web.de> - 2014-10-24 02:52 -0700

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