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| From | jebblue <n@n.nnn> |
| Subject | Re: Apache, Eclipse, ... Why do they do this? |
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:27:17 +0200, Josip Almasi wrote: > On 07/04/2014 03:28 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: >> Apache and the Eclipse Foundation work to create libraries >> and software, and then they give it to you for free. Why are >> they doing this? > > Why not? > >> Several parties pay for them, for example >> IBM supports Eclipse (for example, in 2001, they supported >> Eclipse with 40 million USD), why do they do this? > > ... as did google, yahoo, microsoft, and everybody who is anybody: > http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html > > Check out apache organization chart: > http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/orgchart > > As you can see, there's 9 directors governing work of 3000+ people on > 100+ projects, and 10 more for infrastructure, fundraising and all other > outside business. > How many directors, managers, salespersons, lawyers, marketing people > would an IBM need to do the same, but proprietary, thing? > Obviously, open source is organizationally superior to proprietary model. > And, production is waaay cheaper. > > What about tech support? > Often, users self-organize and answer each other questions. > OTOH, Cisco had about 4000 people in tech support some 10+ years ago. > Bug reporting and fixing also superior - user who can pipnpoint the bug > can fix it, or reach the developper who can fix it. > > All this works out wonderfully as long as techies are users. > > Regards... It surprises me to see Microsoft on that thanks list. Overall great response, thanks for the information.
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Re: Apache, Eclipse, ... Why do they do this? Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-07-04 12:27 +0200
Re: Apache, Eclipse, ... Why do they do this? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-04 23:09 -0400
Re: Apache, Eclipse, ... Why do they do this? jebblue <n@n.nnn> - 2014-07-10 09:23 -0500
Re: Apache, Eclipse, ... Why do they do this? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-10 12:28 -0400
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