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Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers

From Michael Jung <miju@golem.phantasia.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers
Date 2022-01-15 22:59 +0100
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Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> writes:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:47:49 +0100, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>> How's the experience? Would you recommend it?

Mixed experience. It depends on how you handle changes (see below).

> 1) how much time does it take to rebuild/retest/roll out a new version of 
> the container whenever a new version of any of it's  components is 
> released and how often does this happen?

The CI systems are busy, that's clear.  They have changed the setup and
extracted the most variable parts into a separate container, so I think
they have two running in tandem now.  But to be more precise, they did
the 1-container-dev-env about a year ago and I have lost track since.  I
only know that they also used this to "archive" their dev environment
for some regulatory compliance reasons.  At the height of this pattern
they created a version every night and the needed storage space went
through the roof.  We only kept one internal release per week or so.
The situation is more relaxed now.

> 2) how does the Container Maintainer like doing that job? 

That was mainly automated.  It's the build servers, network, and storage
space that were aching.

They are (and were) not using Java at all and their environments look
different than the ones that are common for Java, so their problems with
this approach also may be different.  (Still hoping that I didn't answer
the original question in an off-topic way.)

Michael

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Container Overview for Java Programmers Wayne <wayne@nospam.invalid> - 2021-12-20 15:10 -0500
  Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2021-12-30 13:41 +0100
    Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Wayne <wayne@nospam.invalid> - 2021-12-31 16:54 -0500
      Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Michael Jung <miju@nospam.invalid> - 2022-01-06 20:16 +0100
        Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2022-01-10 17:47 +0100
          Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2022-01-10 16:58 +0000
            Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Michael Jung <miju@golem.phantasia.org> - 2022-01-15 22:59 +0100
    Re: Container Overview for Java Programmers Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2022-01-04 10:51 +0100

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