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Re: new stuff in 1.8

From Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: new stuff in 1.8
Date 2014-05-01 15:24 +0200
Organization Lewis
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Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> writes:

> On Thu, 1 May 2014 12:39:36 +0000 (UTC), Sarah Connor
> <s.connor@gmail.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
> who said :
>
>>And Lisp did it even earlier and much better.
>
> Even Java drives me crazy counting () and {} nesting depths.  Can you
> imagine the effect of Lisp?

Seriously, if you are "counting" brackets there is something very very
broken in your approach and knowledge of editors and IDEs.


>
> In Forth, everything is the same precedence.  It takes some getting
> used to, but eventually is becomes easier to read than precedence
> languages. There are no subtle rules to trip you up.
>
> Java trips me up frequently with + meaning either addition or
> concatenation depending on the phases of the moon.  They really should
> have sprung for a separate concatenation operator, or at least have

WHAT? a separate concatenation operator? You may as well suggest they
dump java and go back to C.

> IDEs display the + in a different colour or font depending on which it
> means.

Some might.

>
> I also choke every time see a cast. Just what in the chain is it
> casting?

the type of the variable.... no other.

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new stuff in 1.8 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-04-27 17:18 -0700
  Re: new stuff in 1.8 Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-04-28 09:58 +0200
    Re: new stuff in 1.8 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-05-01 05:31 -0700
      Re: new stuff in 1.8 Sarah Connor <s.connor@gmail.invalid> - 2014-05-01 12:39 +0000
        Re: new stuff in 1.8 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-05-01 06:03 -0700
          Re: new stuff in 1.8 Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 15:24 +0200
            Re: new stuff in 1.8 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-05-05 07:54 +0000
              Re: new stuff in 1.8 Sarah Connor <s.connor@gmail.invalid> - 2014-05-05 08:44 +0000
                Re: new stuff in 1.8 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-05-05 10:30 +0000
                Re: new stuff in 1.8 Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 18:21 +0200
                Re: new stuff in 1.8 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-05-06 12:48 +0000
              Re: new stuff in 1.8 Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 18:20 +0200
      Re: new stuff in 1.8 Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-05-01 16:44 +0200
        Re: new stuff in 1.8 Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-01 11:17 -0400
          Re: new stuff in 1.8 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-05-01 13:50 -0700

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