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On 9/1/2013 8:48 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:39:57 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2013 6:58 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:49:26 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most of JDBC has always been in SE.
>>>>
>>>> Things that in early days should have been in SE but ended up in EE:
>>>> * mail client * web service client * ORM
>>>>
>>>> Things that in later days has been properly put in SE:
>>>> * web service client * JMX
>>>>
>>> FWIW, I mainly use SE Java to write the sort of stuff I'd formerly do
>>> in C, i.e. to get more portability and to take advantage of the larger
>>> standard class library and Swing and friends. The only stuff I've
>>> needed that hasn't been in SE was javamail
>>
>> Web service client and database ORM seems natural in SE context to me.
>> You have not had the need for them, but I think many must have.
>>
> Fair comment.
>
> I haven't needed Web Service yet, though that doesn't mean that I won't
> need it, especially if it can be used to distribute Java applications
> rather than applets. I've nothing against the latter, or wouldn't if
> browser behaviour was a bit more consistent and reliable when running
> them.

Web service calls is not so much about the deployment model as it is
about how the client communicate to the server.

> I've written a lot of SQL in the past and am happy to use it directly via
> JDBC, so encapsulating that in a class seems more natural to me than
> using the database ORM, but ymmv.

Some like ORM. And JPA unlike entity beans actually is usable in
SE context.

Arne

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