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Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation?

From Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation?
Date 2014-08-12 03:04 -0700
Organization Canadian Mind Products
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:29:29 +0200, Robert Klemme
<shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>I don't think the spec is to blame. 

The spec came too late, and then the spec had no teeth, so it was
almost useless.

To be useful, it must let you take code and move it around from vendor
to vendor , and as long as you stick to the spec, it still works.
Vendors should be allowed to extend, but not do variants on the core.

Vendors WANT to lock their customers in. Customers want to be able to
move.  The problem is vendors are the ones writing the spec.

Java as a spec is much tighter than usual, and has done a better job
than anyone on WORA.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
The art of strongly-typed language design is largely arranging 
that errors are automatically detected as soon as possible
in the compose, compile, run cycle.

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what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? www <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-08 07:46 -0700
  Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-08 17:28 +0200
    Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-09 04:24 -0400
      Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-10 13:26 +0200
  Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-08 15:55 -0400
  Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-08 18:37 -0700
    Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-08-09 12:29 +0200
      Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-12 03:04 -0700
        Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-08-18 08:08 -0700
          Re: what are java specification? what are reference implementation? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-18 23:28 -0700
          Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-19 11:17 -0400
            Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-19 17:42 +0100
            Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-08-19 23:08 -0500
  Re: what are java specsification? what are reference implementation? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-09 11:17 +0100

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