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Re: Looking For Direction

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  Re: Looking For Direction "David Kerber" <david.kerber@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this> - 2011-04-27 15:23 +0000
    Re: Looking For Direction "Arved Sandstrom" <arved.sandstrom@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this> - 2011-04-27 15:23 +0000

#415 — Re: Looking For Direction

From"David Kerber" <david.kerber@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this>
Date2011-04-27 15:23 +0000
SubjectRe: Looking For Direction
Message-ID<MPG.267ac96ed1170e00989688@news.eternal-september.org>
  To: alt.comp.lang.java,comp.l
In article <w4zq1vcfx8ga.fsf@88VT03J.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
so-tickle-me>, me@me.com says...
> 
> David Kerber <dkerber@WarrenRogersAssociates.invalid> writes:
> 
> > In article <4c1033b3$0$278$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, arne@vajhoej.dk 
> > says...
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> Given that he has Java, JDBC and Oracle experience then he should
> >> have at least some advantages going Java instead of .NET.
> >
> > Not to mention that those are all cross-platform options. while .NET 
> > locks you into a windows-based network.
> 
> And doesn't .NET also tend to drag you into to license fees and other
> expenses; whilst Java has an open source eco-system?

I don't know a whole lot about the .NET ecosystem, but Java absolutely 
has a very strong open-source community.  

Since he's the one writing the lab software, he can probably get the 
entire office redone with zero software expenses, if he were to use 
Linux for the OS, Postgres or mySQL (or the free version of Oracle) as 
the db, and his own software for the front end.

The other nice thing about java is that his very old app will probably 
still run on the newest jvms, allowing him to upgrade the machines and 
rewrite the app later on in the process.

D

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From"Arved Sandstrom" <arved.sandstrom@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this>
Date2011-04-27 15:23 +0000
Message-ID<x4dQn.6549$z%6.1240@edtnps83>
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  To: alt.comp.lang.java,comp.l
David Kerber wrote:
> In article <w4zq1vcfx8ga.fsf@88VT03J.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--
> so-tickle-me>, me@me.com says...
>> David Kerber <dkerber@WarrenRogersAssociates.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> In article <4c1033b3$0$278$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, arne@vajhoej.dk 
>>> says...
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Given that he has Java, JDBC and Oracle experience then he should
>>>> have at least some advantages going Java instead of .NET.
>>> Not to mention that those are all cross-platform options. while .NET 
>>> locks you into a windows-based network.
>> And doesn't .NET also tend to drag you into to license fees and other
>> expenses; whilst Java has an open source eco-system?
> 
> I don't know a whole lot about the .NET ecosystem, but Java absolutely 
> has a very strong open-source community.  
> 
> Since he's the one writing the lab software, he can probably get the 
> entire office redone with zero software expenses, if he were to use 
> Linux for the OS, Postgres or mySQL (or the free version of Oracle) as 
> the db, and his own software for the front end.
[ SNIP ]

And apart from the price of a legal copy of Windows you could do 
everything else in the .NET ecosystem for free also.

In any case the cost of labour is going to dwarf the cost of software in 
this scenario.

AHS

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ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional 
ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to 
which Baghdad could be given as a parameter.
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